KRK
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6 years ago
This is one instance where a “normal” GM would walk down the hall and say to Philbin, “play Kizer.”

Then he would walk down the hall to 12 and say” Big boy, I am sitting your ass down. I appreciate the you want to play, but for good of the organization, we need to see what we have with Kizer. Besides, we have 3 back-up on the Oline and I want you 100 going into next season”

So, with our predent structure, Murphy is the only one with that authority.

IMO, the Board should be looking at whether or not he takes action or orchestrates this to happen.
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gbguy20
6 years ago
Lot of talk about the "structure" of our organization. HALF the league has the exact same structure except you replace the "president" (Murphy) with owner. Getting really tired of hearing about it. It's normal.
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buckeyepackfan
6 years ago
Say what you want about Ted Thompson, this situation would never had been questioned when he was in charge.

Some may be tired of hearing about it, but since Murphy changed the pecking order, seems ther is quite a bit of dissaray.

I don't give a damn what other teams are doing.

Murphy has totally screwed up.

Funny thing, most are blaming Ted Thompson, he is on his way out, others are blaming Mike McCarthy, he is gone.

John Dorsey, Elliot Wolf, and others are gone.

Mark Murphy is getting no blame, when he is the one making most of these decisions.

Not sure how long he will get away with whatever the hell he is doing, but until things go in a different direction, I don't see a bright future.

You may be tired of hearing about it, but it is what it is, and so far it's not working very well!

I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!
Zero2Cool
6 years ago

Lot of talk about the "structure" of our organization. HALF the league has the exact same structure except you replace the "president" (Murphy) with owner. Getting really tired of hearing about it. It's normal.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



THANK YOU!!!

Holy fuck, it's nice when someone actually speaks facts.
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buckeyepackfan
6 years ago

THANK YOU!!!

Holy fuck, it's nice when someone actually speaks facts.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I guess that means The other half does it the way The Packers did it Before Murphy decided to change things.

Seems The Packers were pretty successful doing it The Old Way!

FACT!!!!!!


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Zero2Cool
6 years ago

I guess that means The other half does it the way The Packers did it Before Murphy decided to change things.

Seems The Packers were pretty successful doing it The Old Way!

FACT!!!!!!

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 


FACT, you need to calm your tits.
I'm not convinced this is long-term. I believe in 2-3 years Brian G is gonna promoted and eventually Mark Murphy is gonna step back. I think this whole structure is more of a front to the public than anything. Based on everything I've heard, and listened to from them, that's where this is coming from. It feels more like Mark is really wants Brian to succeed so he's putting his ass out to take the blows.

But yea, you need to calm your tits and let shit play out. We've had one season under this current structure.

This fan base is insane. Absolutely insane! We have a couple shitty seasons and suddenly everything, including our (most likely Hall of Fame) QB needs to be scrapped.
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KRK
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6 years ago
I regret having brought this up again. I did not mean to have it cause animosity....sorry

I was simply trying to point out that Murph would need to be involve with the decision to sit 12.
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buckeyepackfan
6 years ago

FACT, you need to calm your tits.
I'm not convinced this is long-term. I believe in 2-3 years Brian G is gonna promoted and eventually Mark Murphy is gonna step back. I think this whole structure is more of a front to the public than anything. Based on everything I've heard, and listened to from them, that's where this is coming from. It feels more like Mark is really wants Brian to succeed so he's putting his ass out to take the blows.

But yea, you need to calm your tits and let shit play out. We've had one season under this current structure.

This fan base is insane. Absolutely insane! We have a couple shitty seasons and suddenly everything, including our (most likely Hall of Fame) QB needs to be scrapped.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Who's not calm?

Just stating facts.

Mark Murphy screwed up after last season, now who knows what he has planned?

You can't half-ass a realignment or a retool.

Murphy is doing both!!!

I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!
beast
6 years ago

This is one instance where a “normal” GM would walk down the hall and say to Philbin, “play Kizer.”

Originally Posted by: KRK 

This entire thread is based on this one comment, which seems like complete bullshit... But for debating sake (because I can be wrong)...

Can you please list examples of how "normal" GMs have actually frequently done this...

What other teams (with "Normal" GMs) have actually done that this year? Or last year?

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Zero2Cool
6 years ago

Mark Murphy screwed up after last season, now who knows what he has planned?

You can't half-ass a realignment or a retool.

Murphy is doing both!!!

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



This is solely your opinion. It is not a fact. You don't know what is going on and instead of thinking you might be wrong, you're rampaging that things aren't being done in a manner you understand that can be successful.

We don't know that Mark Murphy screwed up last season. Hell, we might still have Mike McCarthy as HC if Mark hadn't open those lines of communication.

We just do not know anything and have to let it ride out.

I just don't get why getting so riled up over something we just don't know everything about.
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