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15 years ago
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nfcnorth/0-10-5/Black-and-Blue-all-over--Tweeting-the-Packers.html?post=true&prosaction=newpost&status=ok&status=ok 

And frankly, I do not disagree with him.

Why we haven't shown more interest in guys like Kevin Carter and/or Vonnie Holliday is beyond me. Two inexpensive veterans right there who could be brought in on short-term deals to at least provide some depth and experience at 3-4 DE where it's badly needed. Jenkins is coming off a major injury, who knows how long Jolly may get suspended if he's convicted, and can we even count on Bustin' Justin to stay healthy through training camp?

Not sure what happened to the "interest" we had in Carter last month, but I'd like to think the idea hasn't gone completely cold.
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15 years ago
I don't think it has. I think Carter's agent knows the Packers are interested and has an idea what kind of deal he could get his client. Carter could still end up here.
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Zero2Cool
15 years ago
I say sign Kevin Carter AND Vonnie Holiday. If we draft a few DE's, let them learn from those two for a bit and make a decision from there.

Although, both are unsigned and there are 32 teams out there and no one's fighting for them, that could be a bad sign. One could argue the same thing happened with Charles Woodson.
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TheEngineer
15 years ago
I was going to make a thread, pretty much verbatim to what you've posted there.

I think Barnett is just musing, much like the rest of the fans, due to the inaction from the front office over the past couple of weeks. Ideally, we'll draft another DL in an early round, which should provide more than enough to satisfy Barnett and most people.
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DarkaneRules
15 years ago
I hope we get an already-NFL player for D-line depth though before free agency ends. This was definitely a good little muse on Barnett's part. It wasn't insulting. He is just curious and a little concerned like all of us are. I like that he is involved to this extent. It shows that he cares about this team being the best it can be.
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Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago

There are still some serviceable veterans out there like Vonnie Holliday and Kevin Carter who probably wouldn't break the bank and could be brought in on a low-end one to two year deal and at least provide some depth and experience at 3-4 DE where it's badly needed. Either would be a good pick up for Green Bay for at least the time being until someone younger could be drafted or signed and could eventually take their place. No telling how Jolly and Jenkins will do in the new scheme and you can't count on Bustin' Justin to stay healthy long enough to find out.

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While these are certainly valid points, I don't understand the groundswell of angst among fans over the failure to sign Holliday and Carter. In all fairness, it's not as though other teams are pounding down the doors to sign them either. Chances are they won't be signed until after the draft, and Packers management no doubt realizes this as well. My guess is they're waiting to see how the draft shakes out before spending the money to fill in the jigsaw puzzle. It would be kind of silly to sign these guys prematurely, only to have an ideal pick fall into our lap and put the team in an awkward position: pass on a great player because he's not needed, or draft a player for a position that's already filled and cut the newly acquired free agent only weeks after signing him.

I think we'll see a couple of signings after the draft, and I believe Ted Thompson's cool-headed prudence will pay off in the end.

I also predict that the teams who sign Haynesworth and Peppers won't make the Super Bowl this year. Or the next.
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zombieslayer
15 years ago
I agree with Nick, but also hoping we land a really good DE in the draft who can immediately start and generate pressure.

What went wrong in '08 was the QB had way too much time to throw. He'd have a full second and a half more than Aaron Rodgers had, sometimes even averaging two whole seconds more than Aaron.

And that's one of the main reasons we went from 14-4 to 6-10. Our main priorities need to be our lines.

I'd be for signing one or the other plus picking up some big boys in the draft.
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15 years ago

Chances are they won't be signed until after the draft, and Packers management no doubt realizes this as well. My guess is they're waiting to see how the draft shakes out before spending the money to fill in the jigsaw puzzle.

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That's... the best commentary I've read about the FA DE's anywhere. Great point. +1
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millertime
15 years ago

In all fairness, it's not as though other teams are pounding down the doors to sign them either. Chances are they won't be signed until after the draft, and Packers management no doubt realizes this as well. My guess is they're waiting to see how the draft shakes out before spending the money to fill in the jigsaw puzzle. It would be kind of silly to sign these guys prematurely, only to have an ideal pick fall into our lap and put the team in an awkward position: pass on a great player because he's not needed, or draft a player for a position that's already filled and cut the newly acquired free agent only weeks after signing him.

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It may be silly to sign them prematurely, but you have think with what these players have in mind. Say after the draft, a lot of 3-4 teams are calling Vonnie Holliday and Kevin Carter to shore up their d-line. What is gonna make them choose GB compared to places like Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Miami, San Diego, or Dallas???? We have a worse record, a worse climate, and are obviously in rebuilding mode (on defense)!

I say you sign these guys now, while their options are limited. If you wait too long, you might lose out to another team. I seriously doubt the presence of Vonnie Holliday on are roster would convince Ted Thompson to pass up on a great young DE (like LSU's Tyson Jackson) if they fell to us at the right spot in the draft.
doddpower
15 years ago
Yaaay, I'm friends with Barnett on Twitter and he's always give me little bits of updates on what's going on with his rehab, travel plans, food, etc. I saw him post all of this way before any articles were written and I was wondering when someone was going to make news about it. It really just seemed like a question to me.

Either way, I love Twitter. Can't wait until more Packers get on board so that I can keep up with more inside news! 🙂
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