Zero2Cool
6 years ago

To be frank, I think one of the things our personnel people should be looking at is the 'motor' within prospective players...how bad to they want it. I wonder whether or not that was examined pre-draft. I sure hope it is now.

Originally Posted by: KRK 



It has been in the past. I don't know about now with Brian G. It was one of the things that got us Greg Jennings if I remember correctly or maybe Nick Collins.
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Nonstopdrivel
6 years ago
I've mentioned this in the past, but it bears repeating here: One of the reasons Matt Millen passed on JaMarcus Russell -- and why he called Al Davis to urge him to pass on JaMarcus Russell -- was that he got the impression from predraft interviews that he was not disciplined or interested enough in the game to be worth taking a chance on. And of course, it turned out his fears were more than justified. So I imagine that's always part of the calculus when evaluating a prospect, at least in well-run organizations.
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DoddPower
6 years ago

I've mentioned this in the past, but it bears repeating here: One of the reasons Matt Millen passed on JaMarcus Russell -- and why he called Al Davis to urge him to pass on JaMarcus Russell -- was that he got the impression from predraft interviews that he was not disciplined or interested enough in the game to be worth taking a chance on. And of course, it turned out his fears were more than justified. So I imagine that's always part of the calculus when evaluating a prospect, at least in well-run organizations.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



How can it not be? Employers in any profession would never want to hire anyone that's not "passionate." In fact, "passion" is the number one thing the engineering firms I have worked for seek. As long as candidates have a basic skill-set, a passionate person can be trained and grow into some type of valuable role. Sports is a little different because you can't train physical talent. But physical talent without passion is as good as a lack of physical talent and no passion, in the long run. Unless one someone finds passion along the way, which I guess is possible, but perhaps unlikely.
Zero2Cool
6 years ago

How can it not be? Employers in any profession would never want to hire anyone that's not "passionate." In fact, "passion" is the number one thing the engineering firms I have worked for seek. As long as candidates have a basic skill-set, a passionate person can be trained and grow into some type of valuable role. Sports is a little different because you can't train physical talent. But physical talent without passion is as good as a lack of physical talent and no passion, in the long run. Unless one someone finds passion along the way, which I guess is possible, but perhaps unlikely.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 


Several of the job offers I've received cited my passion as reason for offering me the position o er other candidates.

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gbguy20
6 years ago
2 types of passion. 1. Passionate about something and make it your career forever. 2. Somehow end in a job/career and become passionate about making the most of it and becoming as successful as possible in said job/career while you are in it but maybe or maybe not stay forever.

I'm currently at number 2, maybe raji was too. Both are perfectly fine in my book.
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