Zero2Cool
5 years ago
What do you make of this?




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Pack93z
5 years ago
If anything, I think it a shot at Rodgers... foremost.

That said, I think Moss might be thinking about taking a flame thrower to Green Bay on his way out this season. Been pretty surly lately.
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buckeyepackfan
5 years ago
Who is that guy Winston?

Mike's time was up.

Maybe Winston is afraid Mike will go to Cleveland.
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beast
5 years ago

What do you make of this?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


I think Moss is trying to do multiple things with that statement

1) Tell the blunt truth... the statement is true.

2) Promote defensive coaches... I think this will be the most overlooked part, but "offensive guru trend, it’s not the safe trend" seems to be saying give defensive coaches a chance!

3) Yeah there is a little knock there that leadership wasn't holding everybody to the #LombardiStandard... and he MIGHT of been knocking Rodgers too, though he might of just meant from the top on down, and instead of saying top he just named the top guy.



*Extra* Moss has been acting EXTREMELY PISSY this entire season... he's never been the nicest of people, but in years past he's been respectful and willing to answer questions (even some stupid questions), from what I've seen this season, he's been disrespectful to the media and went out of his way to answer to avoid answering basic questions. I don't know how Moss was behind the closed doors, but he seemed to lack great leadership in front of the media this season.

This is purely speculation, but I wonder if Moss was upset that he didn't get the DC job (and sounded like Mike McCarthy suggested Witt was #2). I know Darren Perry was also very upset and left, and rumor had it Moss was expected to leave too, and didn't. I don't know this, but I'm wondering if Perry got out of his contract because they switched the DB group to a single position group and Moss wanted to leave too, but Mike McCarthy didn't let him get out of the contract because there was still a position group for him.

Mike McCarthy has upset/pissed off severe coaches like that, not letting them get out of their contract... though normally it's when they wanted to go for a promotion (such as QB coach Alex Van Pelt wanting to interview for an offensive coordinator job, but Mike McCarthy wouldn't let him, and so he left when his contract was up)


So I'm guessing (purely guessing) Moss was extremely pissy because either he didn't get the promotion, or he wanted to leave after not getting the promotion and wasn't allowed out of his contract. So as Pack93z said, I wouldn't be surprised if Moss does more in the future.

That said, I think Moss might be thinking about taking a flame thrower to Green Bay on his way out this season. Been pretty surly lately.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 




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Nonstopdrivel
5 years ago
The real question is how does a public figure like Winston Moss not have a verified badge after all these years?
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nerdmann
5 years ago
Sounds to me like he has been disgusted at the lack of accountability that has been occurring. All at the same time that the coaching staff were preaching that accountability was gonna be the big thing this season.

Maybe he didn't like being muzzled. The Packers organization has been very tight lipped since the Bert Favor fiasco in '08. Maybe he wanted to call some people out this whole time, but wasn't allowed to do so.
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beast
5 years ago

The real question is how does a public figure like Winston Moss not have a verified badge after all these years?

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



If you don't ask for one, then you don't get one... and I don't know how many people are making fake accounts of positional coaches, so maybe he doesn't think he needs one? (or maybe it's a FAKE ACCOUNT! 😮)
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TheKanataThrilla
5 years ago
I could see a guy in his position being pissed after all these years. The DBs have had a tough go for many years. Whether it was injuries or lack of talent. This year you have to say they have finally turned the corner at least at the CB position, but the Offense has let them down. It still seems all we hear is about the D letting the team down specifically the DBs. If I was their coach I would be a bit pissed especially when they did more than enough on many occasions this season to get a win only for the O to flounder.
beast
5 years ago

Sounds to me like he has been disgusted at the lack of accountability that has been occurring. All at the same time that the coaching staff were preaching that accountability was gonna be the big thing this season.

Maybe he didn't like being muzzled. The Packers organization has been very tight lipped since the Bert Favor fiasco in '08. Maybe he wanted to call some people out this whole time, but wasn't allowed to do so.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Hmm, are you suggesting that Moss thinks exactly what nerdmann has been preaching for the last decade? 😝 So Moss has had this bothering him for the last decade and only now decides to come out about it, after being passed over for the DC job?

2) Promote defensive coaches... I think this will be the most overlooked part, but "offensive guru trend, it’s not the safe trend" seems to be saying give defensive coaches a chance!

Originally Posted by: beast 


Speaking of which, more specially he might be promoting himself, as he has interviewed for a number of head coaching jobs (Rooney Rule), though it sounds like most did it, just to get around the Rooney Rule and didn't seriously consider him (I believe rumor suggested the Raiders front office were even making him afterwards because it was so bad... of course that was back when the Raiders completely sucked so Moss probably would of been an upgrade over the people... also what am I talking about, the Raiders still completely suck).

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buckeyepackfan
5 years ago

I could see a guy in his position being pissed after all these years. The DBs have had a tough go for many years. Whether it was injuries or lack of talent. This year you have to say they have finally turned the corner at least at the CB position, but the Offense has let them down. It still seems all we hear is about the D letting the team down specifically the DBs. If I was their coach I would be a bit pissed especially when they did more than enough on many occasions this season to get a win only for the O to flounder.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



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