DoddPower
6 years ago

Aaron cares very much. About his stats and his place in the all time record books.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Yeah, this is a stupid argument. Rodgers knows that the best "stats" he could possibly accumulate are playoff and Super Bowl wins. Nothing matters more than that in many opinions. The guy wants to win, not just put up some decent passing numbers. Who cares about statistics when you don't make the playoffs?
nerdmann
6 years ago

Yeah, this is a stupid argument. Rodgers knows that the best "stats" he could possibly accumulate are playoff and Super Bowl wins. Nothing matters more than that in many opinions. The guy wants to win, not just put up some decent passing numbers. Who cares about statistics when you don't make the playoffs?

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



Exactly. And he thinks he knows better than Mike. Just like Bert Favor thought he knew better than Ted.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
beast
6 years ago

Everyone knows it. It was the first thing brought up on the postgame show this past week. It's been a topic of discussion on all the podcasts.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



If everyone knows it... then why doesn't a number of people on here know it? Because your premise is wrong... and the fact that you keep avoiding providing proof that Mike McCarthy has openly (your word) asked/demanded or hell even wanted Rodgers to play more within the system is clearly lacking...

I would even argue that the system itself is what lacking as all the isolation routes help the team with more talent/depth which isn't the Packers who seem to be missing a true #2 WR...
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Cheesey
6 years ago
Rodgers doesn’t like to throw interceptions. Why? Not because of “stat whoring”, but because he hates to lose and wants to NOT give the opponent the ball. Is that a bad thing?
Or that he wants to get as many yards as possible to score points for the team?
I can’t fault the guy for that.
He’s the main reason they won SB45, and have made the playoffs so many times.
They went 15-1 because of him. The defense is what let them down.
Rodgers watched Favre throw away games because of throwing interceptions. He learned what to do, and what NOT to do, from watching him.
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nerdmann
6 years ago


I don't see how the claim that Rodgers ignores people wide open 5-10 yards from the LOS because he wants to bomb it downfield, gets into trouble, and in seasons past would take sacks and this season throws the ball away stands up to the most basic scrutiny. These are actions that distinctly HURT his stats. If he was obsessed with his own stats he'd be throwing those 5-10 yard easy passes every single time because they're high completion percentage, he often has WRs gain an extra 5-10 yards after the catch, and they keep the chains moving which gives him MORE opportunities for yards and touchdowns.

So I really don't understand how that argument works either unless the claim is that the only stat Rodgers cares about is number of bombs downfield and he wants to be known as the all time great downfield bomber at the expense of all the other stats people actually care about.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



Aaron's head is inflated to the point where he believes he can make every throw. He feels like he is better than "the system." That the system doesn't account for how AWESOME he is.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
go.pack.go.
6 years ago

Aaron's head is inflated to the point where he believes he can make every throw. He feels like he is better than "the system." That the system doesn't account for how AWESOME he is.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 




He doesn’t feel this way. But if he did, he would be correct.
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dhazer
6 years ago
I was actually thinking about this the other day, It seems like history is repeating itself. Remember when Favre went diva after Holmgren left, he thought he could decide who the head coach would be and the players to sign. I was wondering if Rodgers was tanking to get Mike McCarthy fired or if he just lost it after breaking both collar bones. People keep wanting to claim he is the GOAT but I think he is in the area of Dan Fouts or Dan Marino who put up stats but didnt do much with his teams.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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nerdmann
6 years ago

I was actually thinking about this the other day, It seems like history is repeating itself. Remember when Favre went diva after Holmgren left, he thought he could decide who the head coach would be and the players to sign. I was wondering if Rodgers was tanking to get Mike McCarthy fired or if he just lost it after breaking both collar bones. People keep wanting to claim he is the GOAT but I think he is in the area of Dan Fouts or Dan Marino who put up stats but didnt do much with his teams.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



I don't think Aaron is tanking it.

I just think he desperately wants another ring to solidify his legacy. And he thinks he knows better than everyone how to get that.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
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6 years ago




If he's okay with outright insubordination, I agree with this. If he's okay with his quarterback running a different play than he called if he sees a matchup he can exploit, that's basic coaching for veteran quarterbacks. QBs do that constantly.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



When I read this I think of Bart Starr and the final play of the Ice Bowl. He called one play in the huddle and ran a QB keeper instead. It worked out so he's a hero. In the internet age he would have as many people slamming him for being a selfish egomaniac glory hound as those who applauded him including Lombardi.
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nerdmann
6 years ago

When I read this I think of Bart Starr and the final play of the Ice Bowl. He called one play in the huddle and ran a QB keeper instead. It worked out so he's a hero. In the internet age he would have as many people slamming him for being a selfish egomaniac glory hound as those who applauded him including Lambeau.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Starr wasn't a crazy person, because Lombardi kept him grounded. Starr was able to objectively evaluate the situation, because his head wasn't inflated with a $100 contract and all the accolades.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
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