Those are all separate arguments. My main point is that Aaron is being insubordinate.
Originally Posted by: nerdmann
That's definitely a conversation topic, my main issue is that you repeatedly state this as fact without strong supporting evidence to back it up. I'm not so much denying that this is the case, as I'm saying you really have no evidence of it besides some cherry picked statements by a player or coach (and ignoring all of the statements from other players and coaches to the contrary) or your own interpretation of what you think the called plays are versus what Aaron is running (as well as any knowledge of cases where Aaron has the green light to change things at the line depending on reads).
Then again if Mike is ok with that, it's just another reason to show him the door. And another reason for his ongoing failures week after week.
Originally Posted by: nerdmann
If he's okay with outright insubordination, I agree with this. If he's okay with his quarterback running a different play than he called if he sees a matchup he can exploit, that's basic coaching for veteran quarterbacks. QBs do that constantly.
Everyone knows it. It was the first thing brought up on the postgame show this past week. It's been a topic of discussion on all the podcasts.
Originally Posted by: nerdmann
Everyone doesn't know it which is why the vast majority of people are disagreeing with you on this point.
Aaron cares very much. About his stats and his place in the all time record books.
Originally Posted by: nerdmann
Of course he does. Any player that spouts the "I only care about my team" nonsense that claims to not dream of putting up big numbers and ending up in the hall of fame is lying. What you MEAN to say is "Aaron cares so much about his stats that he's willing to blow games to try to pad his stats" which seems to run contrary to the whole "Caring about his stats" thing because well... Generally when QBs throw for a bunch of yards, have a high completion percentage, don't throw picks, and throw TDs their teams do well.
I don't see how the claim that Rodgers ignores people wide open 5-10 yards from the LOS because he wants to bomb it downfield, gets into trouble, and in seasons past would take sacks and this season throws the ball away stands up to the most basic scrutiny. These are actions that distinctly HURT his stats. If he was obsessed with his own stats he'd be throwing those 5-10 yard easy passes every single time because they're high completion percentage, he often has WRs gain an extra 5-10 yards after the catch, and they keep the chains moving which gives him MORE opportunities for yards and touchdowns.
So I really don't understand how that argument works either unless the claim is that the only stat Rodgers cares about is number of bombs downfield and he wants to be known as the all time great downfield bomber at the expense of all the other stats people actually care about.