Cheesey
6 years ago

The guy's job was probably trying top block the punt. If his job was to not hit the kicker why take the chance and even rush.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



That’s just it. They should have set up a return in that situation. Your D just made a fantastic stand, and you are in a close game with a chance to get good field position. If the ST coach told them to try to block it, maybe he’s an idiot too.
I’m just getting tired of stupid mistakes killing our team. So I admit I’m getting ticked off and have a much shorter fuse then normal.
I hate to admit that the Packers stink this year. I really thought they would bounce back from last season. Instead, it seems they are stuck in neutral.
They are their own worst enemy.
I still love them, but I’m MAD at them as well!
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nerdmann
6 years ago

So McCarthy is in a lose lose situation. He is condemned for not reigning in his diva QB and if he does reign him in he will be condemned for holding back the best QB in the game. I can't think of any coach in recent history that would be hired somewhere else as quickly as Mike McCarthy would be if he were fired. I mean fired for not being a good coach. Obviously a guy like Bellichick would be hired quickly as well but no one is calling for him to be fired. If Mike McCarthy were fired today I bet three more coaches would be fired within the hour and those teams would be lining up to hire McCarthy.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



Mike will be criticized until his offense is no longer LESS than the sum of it's parts.

In particular he needs to get control of his players. They clearly do not respect him. Aaron is a team leader, people look to HIM to see how to act.

Other than that, he needs to understand how to motivate them, yet keep them loose, so they can get in the zone and perform at a high level.

Like I said, Mike has no grasp whatsoever about sports psychology. He's just out there with his textbook, pointing at the pages.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
nerdmann
6 years ago

That’s just it. They should have set up a return in that situation. Your D just made a fantastic stand, and you are in a close game with a chance to get good field position. If the ST coach told them to try to block it, maybe he’s an idiot too.
I’m just getting tired of stupid mistakes killing our team. So I admit I’m getting ticked off and have a much shorter fuse then normal.
I hate to admit that the Packers stink this year. I really thought they would bounce back from last season. Instead, it seems they are stuck in neutral.
They are their own worst enemy.
I still love them, but I’m MAD at them as well!

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



Special Teams arguably has cost us these last two games. They, in particular, have been shitting themselves rather spectacularly.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
bboystyle
6 years ago

So McCarthy is in a lose lose situation. He is condemned for not reigning in his diva QB and if he does reign him in he will be condemned for holding back the best QB in the game. I can't think of any coach in recent history that would be hired somewhere else as quickly as Mike McCarthy would be if he were fired. I mean fired for not being a good coach. Obviously a guy like Bellichick would be hired quickly as well but no one is calling for him to be fired. If Mike McCarthy were fired today I bet three more coaches would be fired within the hour and those teams would be lining up to hire McCarthy.

Originally Posted by: sschind 





And those three teams will be just as dumb to hire him as well. Hes a nobody without an elite qb and thats a fact. The media tries to shove this narrative about MM like hes a top great coach. To me, hes not jeff fisher bad but hes not even on andy reids level. Reid won games with mediocre qbs, MM would be a 3 to 4 win coach every season without an elite qb.
sschind
6 years ago

That’s just it. They should have set up a return in that situation. Your D just made a fantastic stand, and you are in a close game with a chance to get good field position. If the ST coach told them to try to block it, maybe he’s an idiot too.
I’m just getting tired of stupid mistakes killing our team. So I admit I’m getting ticked off and have a much shorter fuse then normal.
I hate to admit that the Packers stink this year. I really thought they would bounce back from last season. Instead, it seems they are stuck in neutral.
They are their own worst enemy.
I still love them, but I’m MAD at them as well!

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



That's a bit different than saying his job was not to run into the kicker and I don't disagree with you on the setting up a return. Like you said the defense just did a great job and you stood to get decent field position and the chances of a block are very slim. On the other hand the chances of a roughing call are pretty slim as well.

That is one reason why I don't get so worked up over stuff like this. Sometimes there is a fine line between a stupid mistake and a great play. If he blocks it he is a hero instead he is the goat. Same with Monty last week if he doesn't fumble few are complaining and if he brings it out to the 40 (or even better) no one is complaining. You will still have some people saying it was a poor decision (which it certainly was) but he is going to be forgiven if it works out. Certainly we wouldn't have had the uproar and calls for his head like we did.

I guess if you are passionate you are going to let people know and its going to bother you a lot more. I've learned to temper my anger and frustration but as a result I must say I have lost a bit of interest as well. I work every other Sunday so I can't watch all the games even if I wanted to and I don't have cable or any other way of watching on my TV so even if I have off I am forced to try to find a streaming option. I saw maybe half the game trying to locate a decent one and when I couldn't I said screw it and just followed the play by play on nfl.com (or was it espn? I don't recall.) Anyway, since my nephews started playing Pee Wee football 4 years ago the NFL and, sadly, even the Packers have lost a lot of their appeal.
Cheesey
6 years ago

That's a bit different than saying his job was not to run into the kicker and I don't disagree with you on the setting up a return. Like you said the defense just did a great job and you stood to get decent field position and the chances of a block are very slim. On the other hand the chances of a roughing call are pretty slim as well.

That is one reason why I don't get so worked up over stuff like this. Sometimes there is a fine line between a stupid mistake and a great play. If he blocks it he is a hero instead he is the goat. Same with Monty last week if he doesn't fumble few are complaining and if he brings it out to the 40 (or even better) no one is complaining. You will still have some people saying it was a poor decision (which it certainly was) but he is going to be forgiven if it works out. Certainly we wouldn't have had the uproar and calls for his head like we did.

I guess if you are passionate you are going to let people know and its going to bother you a lot more. I've learned to temper my anger and frustration but as a result I must say I have lost a bit of interest as well. I work every other Sunday so I can't watch all the games even if I wanted to and I don't have cable or any other way of watching on my TV so even if I have off I am forced to try to find a streaming option. I saw maybe half the game trying to locate a decent one and when I couldn't I said screw it and just followed the play by play on nfl.com (or was it espn? I don't recall.) Anyway, since my nephews started playing Pee Wee football 4 years ago the NFL and, sadly, even the Packers have lost a lot of their appeal.

Originally Posted by: sschind 


Much higher chance of a roughing call then a block.
The Packers are not good enough to overcome bad plays like that.
The defense even stopped the Pats after that horrible penalty. But the good field position was gone.
This team keeps beating itself.
Montgomery last week, the penalty and Jones fumble this week.
They keep coming up with ways to lose them ways to win.
Just frustrating, that’s all.



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Nonstopdrivel
6 years ago

the offense is easy to read to the point fans can call the plays at the comfort of their couch.

Originally Posted by: bboystyle 


I couldn't hear it myself because the game was muted at the bar, but from the very first offensive play of the game, KRK was pointing out that the Patriots defenders were calling out the Packers' plays -- and that's on the scripted plays. That's pretty embarrassing.
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gbguy20
6 years ago
Didn't hear anyone calling about plays. Can we confirm that?
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sschind
6 years ago

Much higher chance of a roughing call then a block.
The Packers are not good enough to overcome bad plays like that.
The defense even stopped the Pats after that horrible penalty. But the good field position was gone.
This team keeps beating itself.
Montgomery last week, the penalty and Jones fumble this week.
They keep coming up with ways to lose them ways to win.
Just frustrating, that’s all.


Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



Amen to that.

Although the only stats I could find say there have been 10 blocked punts so far this year and only 5 roughing the kicker calls. Two of them being by the Packers. and another 5 running into the kicker.
Zero2Cool
6 years ago

YES.
What was the guys JOB? DONT HIT THE KICKER!!!
So what did he do?
HIT THE KICKER!
Did the ref blow the call? I’m not so sure of that. Watching the replay, he DID hit the kickers plant leg.
Did the Packer player cause the penalty? YES.
Your team is set up to get great field position, and your defense made a great stop, and you put your team against the wall because of a boneheaded play.
So I got angry. I called the guy an idiot.
Sue me.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



Why you gotta be like his? Relax buddy, relax. No need to go off the deep end call people names behind their back. It wasn't the wrong call to pressure the punter. If you don't risk anything, you don't get rewarded. IF we had blocked it, you'd be saying how great of a play it was. Fact is, you don't know what the hell is going on so maybe you should take that into account before acting like you know everything with this name calling business.

We ALL need to understand we are NOT NFL coaches and haven't a damn clue of the flow of the game or anything of the sort. It's easy to micromanage from the comfort of our chairs.

What most likely happened is the Patriots gave the Packers a look that they felt they could exploit. Players are often told if you see this, do this, if not, go default. Maybe they saw something on film they wanted to take advantage of and it failed? So what. They tried and ran into the punter and the official over penalized the Packers. It happens.

I really wish my life issues were so insignificant that I could get as angry as some of you over things you don't even know. And let me tell you, it is OKAY to not know, but to get enraged and name call as if you're better than them? As if you KNOW better than them? That's just plain ... wrong.

I just hope you all can find happiness. It's going to be OK. The sun is still shinning.
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