It's the offense. It's Rodgers. It's McCarthy. We need a change.

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This defense gets hung out to dry, routinely. They still produce.

Look at that fucking goal line stand. BOOM. But I mean, how many times can a defense be reasonably expected to hold in goal line situations?

And that roughing call. BOOM. Right back out there as if nothing happened. All that fucking hard work and effort, for NOTHING.

And yet they still come out fighting.

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Now if only the offense could fight like that

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Another thing about the D and a potential head coaching change: if Pettine is retained, will he be allowed to bring in his own guys? Remember, all the position coaches are leftovers from the Capers D.

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Wait what? I thought we swapped out a lot of guys...

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I'm talking about guys like Whitt and Moss that came in with McCarthy.

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A number of the coaches got new titles... or promotions and the guys holding their old spots are gone.
4 of the 9 defensive coaches are new to the Packers ... though they've all switched up what they do to some degree.

Defensive Coordinator Mike Pettine (new to Packers)
Associate Head Coach/Linebackers Winston Moss (now OLB coach (I think) former ILB/LB coach)

Defense - Run Game Coordinator/Inside Linebackers Patrick Graham (new to Packers)
Defense - Pass Game Coordinator Joe Whitt Jr. (former CB coach)

Secondary Jason Simmons (former Asst ST coach)
Defensive Line Jerry Montgomery (former Asst DL coach)
Assistant Defensive Line Jay Hayes (new to Packers)
Defensive Assistant Scott McCurley (former Asst LB coach)
Defensive Quality Control Ryan Downard (new to Packers / worked for Pettine under Browns)

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Our defense holds them, forces 4th and 21, and a stupid mistake by special teams puts our defense back on the field right away.
Then the fumble by Jones blows the chance to take the lead.
You can’t expect the defense to stop a good team over and over. Towards the end of the game, our D was gassed and they had to feel like “geez, how many times do we have to do this, with nothing to show for it?”

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Jim bates wanted the HC job. Thats why we lost him.

Im all for pettine taking over as HC

Defense shows more heart and promise then years past. Thats progress in my book.