LT i totally agree with you on the better the defense usually the better record. Defense wins championships look at the Steelers, Giants, Pats, Ravens just for an example. I have alot of homework to do today or i would look it up but i think it would be interesting to find out how much time we were trailing this year? The reason for that is sometimes trailing alot can be a misleading advantage to put up offense of stats.

"dhazer" wrote:

LT i never said the defense wasn't a bigger part of the losses, the point i was always trying to make is that Rodgers isn't completely fault free. I was tired of everyone saying that the loss wasn't any of Rodgers fault. I never once blamed him for the loss all by himself.

I guess as what i was thinking of for stats on being behind and stuff was how if you are constantly getting into shootouts it could skew the stats to make the offense seem better than it was. I will go on record right now saying we will be an average offense next year. We could be high ranked but we play the likes of the Steelers and Ravens so that should knock our stats down.

"dhazer" wrote:

I agree, he definitely has aspects that need to improve. Who doesn't though? In any walk of life? Are there people out there that are just totally perfect and need no improvement whatsoever??

I will admit that it is hard for me NOT to view the football world through my Green and Gold glasses, but I would take Rodger's over most the quarterbacks in the NFL right now. Not necessarily all of them, but most. He appears to be a great teammate, a hard worker, big arm, not dramaful, and appears to be far away from reaching his full potential. Perhaps he will never be able to lead a team to a super bowl by himself. Most quarterbacks can't and haven't been able to. However, I am fairly confident that if you give Rodger's an above average defense and offensive line, he will have every chance to win a championship. That's all he needs other then more experience, just a slightly above average defense and offensive line and I think he can carry the team from there to a Super Bowl. Now, if we don't get those things fixed, we're in for more trouble and high draft picks =(

"dd80forever" wrote:

Well LT seeing your putting words into my mouth what else did i say? I never once called him mr 6-10; but i would say his record is 6-10 and i don't see how that was a lie. Btw its funny your trying to say i said this about Brett and that about Brett but i don't think i brought his name up once in this thread. But hey it's nice having you doing my work in this discussion thanks lol. You bring up good points to defend Brett.

"dhazer" wrote: