Cheesey
6 years ago
First, I don’t believe he didn’t know he was in the end zone. If he didn’t, he should not have been on the kick off return team in the first place.

I think he was just trying to make a play. Maybe to be able to say “see? You NEED me!”
Had he got past the 25 and not fumbled the ball, it would have been a good play.
But he screwed up BIG time.
There were many other times during the game where plays could have been made that were missed that could have won the game for us.
This stands out because it was at a crucial time when we still could have won.
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Nonstopdrivel
6 years ago

Had he got past the 25 and not fumbled the ball, it would have been a good play.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 


No, it wouldn't have been, because that still would have cost Green Bay the opportunity to run a play before the two-minute warning, without any additional benefit. There is arguably no outcome that would have made his decision a good one; it was just statistically the wrong move from every imaginable angle. Even if he had managed to score on the return, it would still have been the wrong decision: first, because it was such a high-risk-low-reward move; and second, because it would have put the ball back in the hands of the high-powered Rams offense with about 1:45 on the clock and needing just a touchdown to win it.
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nerdmann
6 years ago

No, it wouldn't have been, because that still would have cost Green Bay the opportunity to run a play before the two-minute warning, without any additional benefit. There is arguably no outcome that would have made his decision a good one; it was just statistically the wrong move from every imaginable angle. Even if he had managed to score on the return, it would still have been the wrong decision: first, because it was such a high-risk-low-reward move; and second, because it would have put the ball back in the hands of the high-powered Rams offense with about 1:45 on the clock and needing just a touchdown to win it.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



We all know it was gonna get called back anyway.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Nonstopdrivel
6 years ago

We all know it was gonna get called back anyway.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 


I'll admit it: that made me 😂 🤣 [giddity] [bdance]
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Zero2Cool
6 years ago

No, it wouldn't have been, because that still would have cost Green Bay the opportunity to run a play before the two-minute warning, without any additional benefit. There is arguably no outcome that would have made his decision a good one; it was just statistically the wrong move from every imaginable angle. Even if he had managed to score on the return, it would still have been the wrong decision: first, because it was such a high-risk-low-reward move; and second, because it would have put the ball back in the hands of the high-powered Rams offense with about 1:45 on the clock and needing just a touchdown to win it.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



Listening to Ty's comments at his locker yesterday, I am starting to lean towards he went rogue. He says he was told if the ball is in the end zone, don't return it. Then he says he stood where he always stands and didn't want to kneel on the half yard line, claiming he didn't know where he was. Look, if you stand 3 yards deep in the end zone every single time, how do you not know where the hell you are?

I want to believe that Mike Silver fabricated his anonymous source because that kind of fracture in a locker room is terrible, but Ty's comments make me think he did it on his own accord, or at least shouldn't be back there. He also admitted to being upset for being taken out of the game and also mentioned he's sacrificing pay by doing multiple roles instead of just one. Kind of all adds up to he did just "do him".
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DarkaneRules
6 years ago
He brought up sacrificing pay? I'm mean... he's a hybrid player on a rookie contract. He's auditioning for his next contract. I don't understand his mentality. I don't know him personally, but he doesn't seem to have proper recognition of what his role is. He's not a lead RB, he's not a QB, he's not a premier pass rusher or a left tackle, therefore he needs to do everything he can to excel in the roles he's given to have a chance at a new deal with whatever team gives him a shot.
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beast
6 years ago

Listening to Ty's comments at his locker yesterday, I am starting to lean towards he went rogue. He says he was told if the ball is in the end zone, don't return it. Then he says he stood where he always stands and didn't want to kneel on the half yard line, claiming he didn't know where he was. Look, if you stand 3 yards deep in the end zone every single time, how do you not know where the hell you are?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

I think you misunderstood his quote... he was orginal standing inside the field of play (I assume the the half yard line), which is what he's talking about when he said he always lines up there, not 3 yards deep.

He did his job correctly, until he looked up for the ball and lined it up... based on his story he didn't mental realize he took a couple steps backwards when lining himself up to catch the kick.

I certainly can't tell you if it's true or not, but people lose awareness in the heat of the the moment all the time so it's at least possible...


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Zero2Cool
6 years ago

I think you misunderstood his quote... he was orginal standing inside the field of play (I assume the the half yard line), which is what he's talking about when he said he always lines up there, not 3 yards deep.

He did his job correctly, until he looked up for the ball and lined it up... based on his story he didn't mental realize he took a couple steps backwards when lining himself up to catch the kick.

I certainly can't tell you if it's true or not, but people lose awareness in the heat of the the moment all the time so it's at least possible...

Originally Posted by: beast 



Fair enough, but you misunderstood my point. Which was using an example, an arbitrary depth inside the end zone (I should have stated as such more clearly). If you are standing in the same spot every time (5 yard line, 5 yards deep, wherever), how is it you do not know where you are? That's the part I'm still not understanding.

If you are on the goal line and you step back to receive the kick, you're in the end zone.

Better yet, stand on the goal line and if you have to move forward, you return it, if not, you let the ball hit the end zone because with the new rule, it's dead the second it hits the end zone.

I hate what Ty is going through from a few asshole fans, but he made a mistake, no question about it.
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beast
6 years ago

If you are standing in the same spot every time (5 yard line, 5 yards deep, wherever), how is it you do not know where you are? That's the part I'm still not understanding.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

My guess is his mind went into autopilot mode and was solely focused and zoned in on catching the ball...

He mentally thought he took steps to the side to adjest to the ball when in reality he took steps both to the slide and backwards at the same time.

Have you never mentally focused so hard on one thing, that you forgot another?
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Zero2Cool
6 years ago

My guess is his mind went into autopilot mode and was solely focused and zoned in on catching the ball...

He mentally thought he took steps to the side to adjust to the ball when in reality he took steps both to the slide and backwards at the same time.

Have you never mentally focused so hard on one thing, that you forgot another?

Originally Posted by: beast 



I didn't catch the part where he said he mentally thought he took steps to the side and it was steps backward.

He made a mistake. I was inclined to believe Mike Silver was bullshiting us, until hearing Ty's comments -- which I need to listen to in full. I think he knew what was he was doing. He isn't stupid. He was trying to make a play when he should have just let the ball bounce into the end zone. It's a shame he's not perfect like the rest of us.
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