Dulak
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15 years ago
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nfcnorth/0-9-113/McCarthy-talks-Collins--offensive-line.html 

Sounds like the packers are ok with how collins is handeling his 'talks'; sounds like his absence is mainly due to his wife having a baby then. ie just like williams is in negotiations with the pack but is still taking part in the strength training.

Looks like Duke Preston has already visited the pack and will probably be a sure deal if the $ is right and he isnt resigned (do the bills have that same clause where they can match a offer?)

Also its mentioned that spitz and wells will compete at the center job. I cant remember whom I liked better there ...

I'm still worried about our Oline - since the guys are getting older and are having more injuries/surgeries.
dfosterf
15 years ago
There is no draft pick/match required with Duke Preston. He is unrestricted. All I have heard is that he started the last 11 games and "didn't play badly". Maybe I'm paranoid, but it seems to me that guys that are 6'5" and 326 lbs have to have incredibly low pad level to fly under the radar to this point in FA. No wonder Mike McCarthy likes him! Seriously, does anyone know why this guy hasn't been scarfed up yet? If he does not suck, I love his size. No one seems to be commenting on this, but his size and versatility seem like everything I'd be looking for.
bozz_2006
15 years ago
maybe he sucks. I don't remember seeing him play, so I can't comment. But maybe he sucks.
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dfosterf
15 years ago

maybe he sucks. I don't remember seeing him play, so I can't comment. But maybe he sucks.

"bozz_2006" wrote:



If he isn't a criminal, he almost has to suck. Sorry, not only paranoid, but cynical also.
bigfog
15 years ago
Here's a link from a Bills fan that has an in-depth assessment of Preston.

Offensive Line Review: Duke Preston 

Some highlights:


Preston while running
The run game wasn't any prettier for Preston. He was on the field for 269 televised run plays. He was rated as good on 24 (8.9%), decent on 148 (55.0%), bad on an astounding 97 (36.1%) and killed 19 (7.1%) for a dismal grade of 69.6%. Ugh. That's actually worse than I thought it would be. Think about that for a moment. Preston was beaten on more than one third of all running plays. He personally killed about one out of every 14 run plays.



Preston while passing
Preston was on the field for 372 pass plays in 2008. Of those, he graded out as good on 2 (0.5%), decent on 344 (92.5%), bad on 26 (7%), and killed 9 (2.4%). That grades out to a poor 69.4%. Some have suggested that Preston showed progress towards the end of the year, which indicated he might grow into a decent center. This wasn't the case in the passing game. In the first 8 games (Preston had significant playing time in three - one of which was the Chargers game which wasn't broadcast in its entirety) he had no good plays, 86 decent ones, 7 bad ones and 4 killed plays for a grade of 73.1%. In games 9-12, Preston had 1 good play, 128 decent ones, 4 bad ones and 3 killed plays for a grade of 74.3%. In games 13-16 he had 1 good play, 130 decent ones, 7 bad ones and 2 killed plays for a grade of 73.6%.


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Rockmolder
15 years ago
That isn't to promising. Do we have something like this for our guys though? Because I'd like to see how College for instance did, compared to this kid.
Pack93z
15 years ago
More on Duke here...

http://www.packershome.com/index.php?name=ForumsPro&file=viewtopic&t=4087 
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Dulak
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15 years ago
Sounds like we are trying to get some depth for cheap. Cheap meaning he's not that great but will provide depth. Nice size thou like dfoster mentioned.

Not the greatest pick but I'm happy with it if it will help keep arod healthy. And improve our running game.
Mike McCarthy said a few months ago that his main objective with the Oline is to get guys into a position and stick to it thoughout the season (not like what happened last year - where he had to move them all around because of injuries etc ...)

So by providing depth we can keep players at their respective position and let the 2nd string man take over when needed.

(least this is what I get out of it)
PackerTraxx
15 years ago
I thought McCarthy said we need players who can move for our zone blocking. This guy doesn't look like he can move to well at a 326# center.

He's not that old, maybe they feel he has some upside. I wish we had a Pro Bowl type center. I think it is one of the most under rated positions.
Why is Jerry Kramer not in the Hall of Fame?
bozz_2006
15 years ago
There has been evidence of moving away from the zone blocking. I think having Josh Sitton in at guard would be a very evident first step. Moving Spitz to starting center would be yet another. Picking up this guy would be another step. If we do pick up this guy, what's to say he will be back up center, and not backup guard? I think the writing is pretty clearly on the wall that GB is abandoning the zone blocking.
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