Zero2Cool
6 years ago
Yes, Kirk Cousins is a better QB than Case Keenum, but look how well Case played during the 2017 season.

Case went 325 out of 481 attempts for 67.6% (2nd in NFL) in 14 starts.
3,547 yards passing (12th in NFL)
22 TD's (12th in NFL)
7 INT's which is basically 1 pick every two games he started or 4th best in NFL


What do you think? I am just not worried about the addition to Kirk, in fact, I'm kind of happy they lost Pat Shurmur and Case Keenum in place of a guy they are paying something like $28 million each of the next three seasons. I'm hoping the money spent on QB is going to hurt that asshole defense.
UserPostedImage
nerdmann
6 years ago
I’d take Cousins over Keenum.

Here’s my take: Everyone wants to anoint the Vikings, because of last year. But the only way they got past us was by taking a cheap shot on Aaron. They’re not all that.

If Aaron can just hit the open guy OR if we can keep an active T on the roster, maybe we can get back to reality this year.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
DarkaneRules
6 years ago
Fear their defense. That's what put Aaron out of commission last year. Hope that our new makeup on offense allows us to attack it better.
Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance
Zero2Cool
6 years ago

I’d take Cousins over Keenum.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Do you think the $28 million is going to get you more wins than what Keenum got you at a fraction of that cost? I thought he played pretty damn well and they have that RB coming back who I think is gonna be pretty solid.
UserPostedImage
sschind
6 years ago
Like you said, Cousins is a better QB but Keenum had a career year last year so my take is that the vikings are probably not going to get much more out of the QB position than they got last year. On the other hand it is less likely they will have a drop off. In other words Cousins is more likely to produce the same stats they had last year than had Keenum would have had in replicating them. For that reason I wish they would have kept Keenum. Also I think Cousins may have a better chance at making Diggs and Theilen improve.

Still, it's not the QB position that worries me about the vikings. It is their defense #1 and the potential impact that Dalvin Cook could have if he comes back strong. People say its a passing game and the running game doesn't matter but the quality of your QB has a lot to do with that. An elite QB certainly can make a running game less important but if your QB is not elite a strong running game can help him immensely. I think the cowboys are in the same boat as the vikings. and average or maybe slightly above average QB is helped greatly by a much better than average running back.
Cheesey
6 years ago
He might be a better QB, but to me the question is : will he mesh with the other offensive players? If they don’t like him, or he doesn’t like them, then it could collapse on the Vikings. (I hope!)🤣
Or maybe now that he got his big payday, maybe he won’t produce like they hope.
Honestly, I don’t see what the big deal is about Cousins. Really, what has he done to deserve all the accolades?
They make it sound like he’s Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers combined.
I don’t understand it.
He might be an ok QB, but it’s not like he’s won a bunch of Super Bowls.
UserPostedImage
Bigbyfan
6 years ago
No... living in the DC area, I had to watch this guy every week. He was okay in between the 20s but was a scrub in the red zone. He got a lot of his stats during garbage time as well.

I was actually excited that the Vikings fully committed to him for three years.
blank
Bigbyfan
6 years ago
There is a reason the Redskins never signed him to an extension... You don't see franchise quarterbacks hit free agency.
blank
isocleas2
6 years ago

There is a reason the Redskins never signed him to an extension... You don't see franchise quarterbacks hit free agency.

Originally Posted by: Bigbyfan 



The Redskins messed the negotiations up big time, they lowballed him and didn't want to include guaranteed money passed year 2. By the time they realized they should have ponied up it was too late they were negotiating against a 34 million franchise tag. If they would have made a decent offer 3 years ago they would have saved millions.

Keenum had a great year but Cousins is the better qb, Vikings will be slightly better on offense and more consistent.
nerdmann
6 years ago
I’d have probably gone with Bridgewater, but I don’t see how he practices, how he conducts himself off the field, how his knee is rehabbing, I’m not privvy to any of that.

Fact is, it seems to me the Vikings have gone “all in” for a shot at the title. If we can keep at least one active T on the roster, we should be able to bring them back down to reality. I mean they’re good, but they obviously are buying in to their own hype.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Fan Shout
Mucky Tundra (3h) : FG to make it academic
Mucky Tundra (3h) : and there's the dagger
Mucky Tundra (3h) : ooooo 8 point game with 4 minutes to go!
Mucky Tundra (4h) : ooooooooohhhhhh he missed!
Mucky Tundra (4h) : Ooooo that completion makes things VERY interesting
Mucky Tundra (4h) : Game not over yet
beast (4h) : Oh yeah, Georgia starting quarterback season ending elbow injury
beast (4h) : Sadly something happened to Georgia... they should be playing in this game against Ohio State
beast (4h) : I thought Ohio State and Texas were both better than Notre Dame & Penn State
Mucky Tundra (5h) : Notre Lame getting rolled
Martha Careful (6h) : Ohio State just got punched in the gut. Lets see how they respond
Mucky Tundra (6h) : Notre Lame vs the Luckeyes, bleh
Mucky Tundra (6h) : Oh snap!!!
Zero2Cool (6h) : Even Stevie Wonder can see that.
Zero2Cool (6h) : Nah, you see Lions OC leaving to be HC of Bears is directly related to Packers.
Mucky Tundra (7h) : ohhhhhhh Zero is in TROUBLE
packerfanoutwest (7h) : Zero, per your orders, check Bearshome, not packershome
Zero2Cool (9h) : Then he'll land with another team and flourish.
Zero2Cool (9h) : Ben going to Bears. He'll be out in 3 years.
Mucky Tundra (9h) : what's so funny?
Zero2Cool (10h) : BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Zero2Cool (10h) : Bears are finalizing a deal to hire Ben Johnson as their head coach. (via @tompelissero )
Mucky Tundra (11h) : Looks like Lions OC Ben Johnson is going to be the Bears coach
Mucky Tundra (20-Jan) : TD but another failed 2 pt conversion!
Mucky Tundra (20-Jan) : Ravens still alive, but barely
Mucky Tundra (19-Jan) : Or not...BUT THAT CATCH BY NACUA
Mucky Tundra (19-Jan) : WE MAY HAVE BEEN PREMATURE KANATA
TheKanataThrilla (19-Jan) : Time to make dinner
TheKanataThrilla (19-Jan) : Ouch!!!! Dagger for the Eagles
Mucky Tundra (19-Jan) : DAGGER
TheKanataThrilla (19-Jan) : pass plays
TheKanataThrilla (19-Jan) : Seems some of their passes are too deep. Reminds me of MLF as well.
Mucky Tundra (19-Jan) : Oren Burks with a clutch pass break up...I will now light myself on fire
Mucky Tundra (19-Jan) : a run on 2nd down and 17 from McVay? So that's where MLF gets it from!
Mucky Tundra (19-Jan) : Do or die time for the Rams
TheKanataThrilla (19-Jan) : Kicking field goals are impressive
Mucky Tundra (19-Jan) : Oh that might be a backbreaker
Mucky Tundra (19-Jan) : That's what I thought too, just wasn't sure
TheKanataThrilla (19-Jan) : Kicking doesn't make much sense
Mucky Tundra (19-Jan) : If the Rams score a TD on the upcoming drive, they go for 2, right?
TheKanataThrilla (19-Jan) : Stafford is pretty good with 4th quarter comebacks. I would like to see it.
Mucky Tundra (19-Jan) : YUGE stand by the Rams D there
Mucky Tundra (19-Jan) : killer penalty!
Mucky Tundra (19-Jan) : Philly has to go for this right?
Mucky Tundra (19-Jan) : FUMBLE
TheKanataThrilla (19-Jan) : pre-safety
TheKanataThrilla (19-Jan) : Hurts being a gamer, that tackle on him looked painful on his knee
Mucky Tundra (19-Jan) : Ooo a safety! Things are getting spicy
Martha Careful (19-Jan) : quick analysis, Philly Oline, for the most part, is what our Oline should strive to be
Zero2Cool (19-Jan) : I just saw score. Teams are really struggling with place kicks.
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Jan 12 @ 3:30 PM
Eagles
Recent Topics
2h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

6h / Green Bay Packers Talk / buckeyepackfan

9h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

12h / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

15h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

20-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

19-Jan / Random Babble / Martha Careful

18-Jan / Random Babble / packerfanoutwest

18-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

17-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

17-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

17-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

16-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

16-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

16-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.