Cheesey
6 years ago
I was surprised they let Bridgewater go. Of course I don’t know how his injury healed. I really thought he was their QB of the future.
I still don’t get the hype over Cousins.
Really, what did he do with the Redskins that gave him this huge contract.
The Vikings must have seen something I didn’t see.
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DarkaneRules
6 years ago
We're all kind of forgetting about Dalvin Cook, but I can assure you that our coaching staff hasn't.
Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance
Zero2Cool
6 years ago

We're all kind of forgetting about Dalvin Cook, but I can assure you that our coaching staff hasn't.

Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules 



Do you think the $28 million is going to get you more wins than what Keenum got you at a fraction of that cost? I thought he played pretty damn well and they have that RB coming back who I think is gonna be pretty solid.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Like you said, Cousins is a better QB but Keenum had a career year last year so my take is that the vikings are probably not going to get much more out of the QB position than they got last year. On the other hand it is less likely they will have a drop off. In other words Cousins is more likely to produce the same stats they had last year than had Keenum would have had in replicating them. For that reason I wish they would have kept Keenum. Also I think Cousins may have a better chance at making Diggs and Theilen improve.

Still, it's not the QB position that worries me about the vikings. It is their defense #1 and the potential impact that Dalvin Cook could have if he comes back strong. People say its a passing game and the running game doesn't matter but the quality of your QB has a lot to do with that. An elite QB certainly can make a running game less important but if your QB is not elite a strong running game can help him immensely. I think the cowboys are in the same boat as the vikings. and average or maybe slightly above average QB is helped greatly by a much better than average running back.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



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DarkaneRules
6 years ago
Oh whoops, I meant the fanbase as a whole. He's been an afterthought due to the defense and what they achieved last year, as well as the fact that he had the type of injury he did.
Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance
buckeyepackfan
6 years ago
FEAR NOBODY
RESPECT EVERYBODY!

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Zero2Cool
6 years ago

Oh whoops, I meant the fanbase as a whole. He's been an afterthought due to the defense and what they achieved last year, as well as the fact that he had the type of injury he did.

Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules 



I think since he was mentioned twice on a small forum of Packers fans in a thread about the QB, I'm pretty sure he's far from forgotten. 😉

I'm hoping he can't pass protect worth a shit though! 😃
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Cheesey
6 years ago
I still think that the Packers, if Rodgers is healthy, are the top team in the NFC North.
Of course I am a “homer”!
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Pack93z
6 years ago

Fear their defense. That's what put Aaron out of commission last year. Hope that our new makeup on offense allows us to attack it better.

Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules 



Full of talent and coached well... I am more worried about the defense than their offense. Albeit, if Cook returns strong.. they will have another horse to work for the offense.

I think Cousins is an upgrade though, consistency here is key... personally, and this is difficult, the Vikings are the better team on paper. Not in every position, especially QB, but overall, a better team.

QB - GB (Not Close)
RB - Draw
WR - Slight GB
OL - MN
DL - GB
LB - MN (Not Close)
CB - MN (Not Close)
S - MN
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Zero2Cool
6 years ago

Full of talent and coached well... I am more worried about the defense than their offense. Albeit, if Cook returns strong.. they will have another horse to work for the offense.

I think Cousins is an upgrade though, consistency here is key... personally, and this is difficult, the Vikings are the better team on paper. Not in every position, especially QB, but overall, a better team.

QB - GB (Not Close)
RB - Draw
WR - Slight GB
OL - MN
DL - GB
LB - MN (Not Close)
CB - MN (Not Close)
S - MN

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



I think GB has the edge at RB. I really like Dalvin Cook, but teams aren't gonna be able to prepare for Ty Montgomery coming with say Aaron Jones. And I like Aaron Jones a lot.

I'll say Stefon Diggs and Davante Adams are equal, but Adam Thien (spelled wrong) is far better than our WR2 so I think edge to Vikings there.

OL - GB has the edge.
LB - Definitely Vikings.
CB - I'm gonna drink the Koolaid and say Packers SLIGHTLY
S - ... I love Harrison Smith ... Vikings got this position

Coaching - Packers
Special Teams - Packers
Not Douche Team - Packers


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Pack93z
6 years ago
I included Jimmy in the WR group, as he is more WR than TE, don't care where he lines up.. he shies away from blocking and I happen to think we are going to put him in space often and force the defense to make adjustments and decisions... we should dictate using this. Hence my thoughts there.

On CB... It isn't even close IMO ... Xavier Rhodes is elite. Couple in Waynes, Hughes and Alexander, it truly isn't a contest. Rhodes is the lynch pin, Sanders type player. I like the Packers roster at CB, but it is young and developing... My opinion, Rhodes and Smith make that defense go... we don't have that type of player on the back end of this defense. At least at this point of their careers. And I really like our rookie corners.
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