Cheesey
6 years ago
Honestly, it’s REALLY hard to judge a player, when he hasn’t had the chance to really show what he’s got on the field.
He could be GREAT! He could be LOUSY.
Or he might just be average.
Who can say for sure at this point in time?
He was pretty darn good at Wisconsin.
So I’m sure willing to NOTlabel him yet, until he gets a chance to play.
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Bigbyfan
6 years ago
Shit... as a reserve pass rusher, we should be hoping for 4-6 sacks and a couple other impact players (turnovers). Based on last season, there is no way any of us can claim to know what he'll do... good or bad.
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DoddPower
6 years ago

Shit... as a reserve pass rusher, we should be hoping for 4-6 sacks and a couple other impact players (turnovers). Based on last season, there is no way any of us can claim to know what he'll do... good or bad.

Originally Posted by: Bigbyfan 



None of us KNOW anything about Biegel's future. All we are capable of doing is forming (hopefully) educated opinions. There isn't a right or wrong at this time because it has to actually play out. But I would be much more surprised if he turns into a significant contributor than I would be if he ends up as JAG. Hope I'm wrong, but the odds are against him, as they are against most players.
beast
6 years ago

The reason I have huge hope that the OLBers will improve, is because of what Pettine's system ask them for. I believe Pettine uses more one on one man coverage to allow get more one on one match-ups up front, and he uses versatility to create confusion, on who's rushing and who's dropping in to coverage.

The reason I have hope, is that of the Packers OLBers' strengths... versatility might be their biggest one, which fits perfectly with Pettine's system.

Matthews and Biegel might be more equally good at all trades, than really standing out in a single area. Perry and Fackrell aren't nearly as well rounded, but they're sorta opposites, with Perry being best when going forward almost like a DE, and I see Fackrell as best when an off the line LB... and I've always thought Fackrell is at his best when used like he was in college... he was used in coverage a good bit and then used on surprise blitzes... they had trouble stopping him because he's quick, tons of length and because they weren't expecting it because he didn't do it majority of the time.

Also I think LB Burks could potentially be the most underrated guy right now... I don't know if he'll be ready quickly, or maybe not even as a rookie... but the guy college film makes me think I'm watching a good coverage SS more than a LB. I think they'll be doing some very nice post snap rotations with him once he's ready. Like it looks like a DB is going to jam a slot WR or TE.. but instead the DB blitzes creating an overloaded blitz to one side and Burks rotates into man coverage with the slot guy.
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Zero2Cool
6 years ago
If Clay Matthews and Nick Perry both play all 16 games, Dome Capers is gonna be pissed.
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beast
6 years ago

If Clay Matthews and Nick Perry both play all 16 games, Dome Capers is gonna be pissed.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Not asking them to pass rush on every single down, might actually mean less wear and tear on their bodies. Also it's been pointed out by some fans, that Nick Perry seems to like to bull rush most of the time, and sometimes it seems like that wears him out by the end of a game.
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sschind
6 years ago

Dude’s measurables were comparable to Clay Matthews. And as far as his performance at Wisconsin, it was on par with Watt. Dude is Frank Zombo at a minimum.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Didn't we used to have a member here comparing Jeff Janis' measurables to Julio Jones?
Zero2Cool
6 years ago

Didn't we used to have a member here comparing Jeff Janis' measurables to Julio Jones?

Originally Posted by: sschind 



We are always comparing our members to others members around this place.
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nerdmann
6 years ago

Didn't we used to have a member here comparing Jeff Janis' measurables to Julio Jones?

Originally Posted by: sschind 



That's true, measurables don't tell the whole story.

The difference is, Biegel produced on a big stage. We'll see what he brings to the table. Dude has earned a shot.
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