dyeah_gb
6 years ago
This was discussed a little in the shout (Credit to Nonstopdrivel for initiating the discussion)

IMO, the Packers will draft a QB in the first round of the draft. I would not be surprised if they pick up Rosen. This will indicate that they cannot afford what Rodgers is asking for under a new contract (or what the players union is pressuring Rogers to ask for).

As it stands, the Packers have zero leverage to request a lower offer from Rogers. Hundley is a bust and, for some reason, we have a Cleveland Brown dropout QB on our roster. A talented QB picked up in the 1st round will mitigate substantial risk for the Packer's future in terms of preparing for the post Aaron Rodgers era and prevent us from breaking the bank on AR's contract. Also, the Packers better be thinking about and evaluating the possibility that Aaron Rodgers may never get back to 100% after last year's collar bone break. The game against the Panthers is the only data that we have and it does not look good.

A new QB in 2018 will have a year to develop under a HOF QB and will probably get better help than Brent gave AR. Worst case in this scenario is they resign Aaron Rodgers and the Pack lost out on picking up other talent in the first round; no worse than a Justin Harrell type draft.
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sschind
6 years ago
The Packers have Aaron Rodgers for 2 more years and they can franchise him for at least 1 more after that so IMO it makes no sense to take a QB now. Especially when your draft position has put you in a place to get a potential difference maker at #14.

Your conspiracy theory is interesting but Aaron Rodgers is the one with no leverage here. I highly doubt he will sit out and give up 20 million dollars a year for the next three years.

They have plenty of time to get a potential replacement if in fact they want to move in that direction so I hope they don't watse the #14 pick on a QB.
dhazer
6 years ago
I have been saying the last 2 seasons to trade Rodgers and get what you can get. I am also saying draft a qb because a new gm usually gets his qb and his HC. I would love Josh Allen in Green Bay
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TheKanataThrilla
6 years ago

The Packers have Aaron Rodgers for 2 more years and they can franchise him for at least 1 more after that so IMO it makes no sense to take a QB now. Especially when your draft position has put you in a place to get a potential difference maker at #14.

Your conspiracy theory is interesting but Aaron Rodgers is the one with no leverage here. I highly doubt he will sit out and give up 20 million dollars a year for the next three years.

They have plenty of time to get a potential replacement if in fact they want to move in that direction so I hope they don't watse the #14 pick on a QB.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



I agree we have Aaron for 3 more years if we tag him, but this may be the highest we ever get in the draft to actually make a run at a potential franchise QB without making a Ditka trade.

warhawk
6 years ago
Do you really think that Gute is going to make a move that stamps an early date for the end of the Aaron Rodgers era? I don't.
The only way I could see this is if the Packers are already about 98% sure they are not going to be able to sign Aaron Rodgers to anything close to what the number should be.

I heard the rumor also about even trading UP for Rosen. Really? This team is only borderline capable of making a run WITH Aaron Rodgers and he can only take them so far. So isn't preparing for the post Rodgers era putting the cart in front of the horse? What good does that do if you don't have a good football team around the QB? There's a good 3 or four teams in the NFC with more talent then the Packers. Rodgers makes up for a good bit of that but regardless Gute needs to be building a more talented team around whoever plays QB.
The last few years while we have been floating along not getting a whole lot worse or a whole lot better teams like Philly,Minny, New Orleans, have gotten a whole lot better and well rounded. I just don't think it's the right time to worry about who the hell the next QB is going to be.



"The train is leaving the station."
6 years ago
Seriously, can you imagine what this state would be like if Rodgers was traded? There would be numerous calls for the GM’s head.
isocleas2
6 years ago
When Favre was here unretiring/retiring and trying to dictate terms I could see why they wanted to start moving on. Rodgers although he's created a couple of off-season headlines is mostly very positive of the organization and still does a great job representing the face of it.

Many fans backed the Packers during the succession because they saw it was the right move, you'd have a much harder go around with it this time.
gbguy20
6 years ago
Fuck this idea. Also, whatever stupid fucking team drafts josh Allen deserves all the bottom dwelling years they get after that. Terrible QB in college is a terrible QB in the NFL, these "experts" are way over thinking this shit. Simple math. Draft defense.
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yooperfan
6 years ago
As I stated previously, I'm in favor of this scenario if one of the top 5 rated QB's drop to 14.
I'm not in favor of extending Rodgers to a 30 + million a year contract when he still has 2 years left on his current contract.
nyrpack
6 years ago
Please stop this moronic post , the packers aren’t getting rid of the best player in the nfl , theres no way in hell to get Rosen as he will be taken in the first 4-5 picks, Aaron wants to play until he’s close to 40 if he’s able, they have 2 capable backups, even though if Aaron goes it would be almost impossible to make a playoff run, that goes for about 75% of all teams !!
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