What If Tramon Williams Has to Start?· Page 2

sschind
Senior Member

7 years ago

Hindsight makes everything easy to see. At the time, it made sense when you looked at the salary cap and the roster. As for Tramon Williams, the Packers wanted him back, thus they offered a two year contract worth $10 million, however, the Browns upped our offer by $4 million. Tramon got his ring already so he took the cash.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Exactly. I'm sure there were plenty of comments for Hyde and Hayward that they were not worth what they got from their new teams and I'm equally sure that a lot of those fans who made those comments are the same ones complaining that we let them go.

gbguy20
Veteran Member

7 years ago

#12

Originally Posted by: sschind

Hyde was a fucking terrible player here. Did not deserve the contract he signed buffalo. He sure did play up to it though in year one.

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nerdmann
Premier Member

7 years ago

#13

Hyde was a fucking terrible player here. Did not deserve the contract he signed buffalo. He sure did play up to it though in year one.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20

Hide didn't have the speed to play CB, but that's where he was put. He was a classic Dom Capers 'tweener. I think they've got him at S now, which is where he belongs. Remember some of those plays me made, intercepting that screen at the LoS that time, some of those other great plays? Dude was a film hound. Maximized the skills he had. Delivered, got paid. Pro's pro.

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beast
Select Member

7 years ago

#14

Hide didn't have the speed to play CB, but that's where he was put. He was a classic Dom Capers 'tweener. I think they've got him at S now, which is where he belongs.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

In different systems, players can belong in different spots. Hyde was quick and physical, which fit well when the Packers were aggressively using the nickel / dime hybrid roles, as Hyde could physical (run or pass) blitz with the best of them. That spot was originally asked to be extremely versatile and Hyde was extremely versatile.

In a zone system (like the Bills currently use) the Safeties... Hyde probably fits better at Safety.

I think that was one of the Packers huge mistakes... they grabbed a number of DBs (especially CBs) that would be better fits in zone coverage and the Packers defense was set on playing man coverage.

Cheesey
Preferred Member

7 years ago

#15

So the Packers had good players, but were not smart enough to play to their strengths.
Doesn’t say much for the coaching staff. Too stupid to figure it out.
No wonder our D sucked.

gbguy20
Veteran Member

7 years ago

#16

Hate it when people say how versatile Hyde was. Yea he played many different spots for us. That would make him versatile if he was good at all or most of them, but he wasn't.

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nerdmann
Premier Member

7 years ago

#17

Hate it when people say how versatile Hyde was. Yea he played many different spots for us. That would make him versatile if he was good at all or most of them, but he wasn't.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20

Jack of all trades, master of none. In other words, classic Dom Capers ‘tweener.

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porky88
Veteran Member

7 years ago

#18

I am fine with Williams starting. The pass defense depends on whether Kevin King develops and stays healthy. It's really on him to be the No. 1 guy in year 2. Williams and House can work as serviceable No. 2s.

If King falters. then Williams and/or House will step into the No. 1 role, and GB is back to square one. That is the biggest worry.

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nerdmann
Premier Member

7 years ago

#19

Originally Posted by: porky88

Once we draft Harold Landry, our CBs won’t have to maintain coverage for 18 seconds per.

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DarkaneRules
Veteran Member

7 years ago

#20

Pettine is going to want his Calvin Pace / Mario Williams and Davenport would seem to fit that mold. If he's not there, I think we take a DB.

We need a guy to battle to play outside and Herb Waters is untested. We've got a couple guys who should be battling for nickel/dime duties, but a true boundary corner is still a big need moving forward.

That being said, I'm grateful for Tramon's return. He's still got some solid football left.

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