What If Tramon Williams Has to Start?

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

6 years ago

If Tramon is one of the best two CB's and earns starter, I'm good with that. If he has to start because no one else steps up from who we currently have, that's probably not a good sign. What do you think?

Tramon Williams is back with the Green Bay Packers, after three seasons away. Packers.com staff writer Wes Hodkiewicz recently wrote about Williams and comments from Packers head coach Mike McCarthy about the corner who was part of the team's last Super Bowl win.

McCarthy said Williams doesn't look like he's aged since leaving the Packers in early 2015. Williams credits that to his commitment to doing the right things to prolong his career and allow him to stay in football shape.

As it stands right now, Williams sits on a depth chart that includes Kevin King, Quinten Rollins and a group of undrafted free agents. Davon House remains out there for the taking, but he has not signed with the Packers so is not currently part of the conversation.

Based on that cornerback room, it's worth wondering if Williams is currently the starter on the outside opposite King. There is still time in free agency and the upcoming draft and the Packers will add more corners.

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gbguy20
Veteran Member

6 years ago

Agreed with your comment. Though Tramon played lights out last season.

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Cheesey
Preferred Member

6 years ago

If we would have kept all our good DB’s in the first place, we wouldn’t have had such horrible defenses the last several years.
Then we go back and pick them up when they are “retreads?”
Makes me wonder when we will get Casey Hayward back.

DarkaneRules
Veteran Member

6 years ago

Preach.

Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance

Cheesey
Preferred Member

6 years ago

Darkanerules, you made me literally laugh!🤣

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

6 years ago

Originally Posted by: Cheesey

Hindsight makes everything easy to see. At the time, it made sense when you looked at the salary cap and the roster. As for Tramon Williams, the Packers wanted him back, thus they offered a two year contract worth $10 million, however, the Browns upped our offer by $4 million. Tramon got his ring already so he took the cash.

Cheesey
Preferred Member

6 years ago

I understand that, Zero. It’s just frustrating to develope theses guys, and then let them walk out the door.

What’s the sense of “draft and develope” if when the players start to play up to expectations, you let them walk instead of paying up to keep them?
Keeping lesser players won’t get you to the super bowl.
We have proof of that.

olds70supreme
Member

6 years ago

While I don't have any illusions he will be as good as I remember, or as good as he was last year, I would be ok w/ him starting. I don't see a way around it, actually, even if House is resigned. Who on our roster is going to be better? Even if we use our first pick on a CB, this team rarely starts rookies right out of the gate, so Williams is bound to start at least the first part of the season. Assuming the injury bug doesn't get him.

Also, a Williams/King combo has got to be as good or better than what we had starting for most of last season.

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

6 years ago

Originally Posted by: Cheesey

The success players like Casey Hayward and Micah Hyde have had, (gosh that's a lot of H words) make me think it was more Dom Capers. We just kept stockpiling picks into the defense and they just weren't turning out.

The lack of success the WR's have had is why I believe having a good TE is more important than having a good WR corps because I believe Aaron Rodgers makes WR2's look like WR1's. Our offense and defense are very different.

nerdmann
Premier Member

6 years ago

#10

Originally Posted by: Cheesey

This staff couldn’t keep Hayward’s hamstrings intact. I mean, they can’t keep many of thhe plays’ hammies intact. Hayward goes away and instantly thrives, consistently over a number of years.

Wise move on his part, imo.

Keep Tramon on a pitch count. You don’t want him wearing down late in the season.

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