Browns Trade For Packers CB Damarious Randall· Page 6

Smokey
Veteran Member

7 years ago

I'd be surprised if Hundley is around for training camp. I would think the goal would be to develop and eventually market Kizer for a trade at some point. No point putting him behind or competing with Hundley when the football world has already seen what Hundley has to offer. I don't think Kizer is the planned successor for Aaron as I am pretty sure Aaron still has quite a few more good years left. A new contract for Aaron will hopefully set out some type of timeline as it will probably be his last.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla

You may or may not be right. Yet the prime goal is to have the best QB2 possible to be ready to step up if needed. If 2017 clearly taught us anything, it's to have a Plan B ready to go at all times.

Provided no more QB deals take place, Hundley and Kizer should push each other in TC. Callihan's future with the Packers may be in even more jeopardy than the others. Like I've already said, it could be a very interesting 2018 TC.

Mucky Tundra
Honored Member

7 years ago

#52

Wasn't a fan of this trade when I first learned of it. I knew Randall had some problems but I thought it was more of the "young fish with a big ego in a small pond" type of deal plus the guy had shown flashes his rookie year and the second half of last year. Now that I see these reports that he was this toxic in the locker room, it looks like a steal that the Packers got anything for him. The Browns 4th rounder looks real nice: good for trade bait to get another 3rd rounder or standing pat and grabbing someone who falls through the 2nd day.

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wpr
Preferred Member

7 years ago

#53

I've been surprised that almost no fans seem to be talking about the value in moving up to the positions they did. I think they're worried this will be another Casey Hayward situation. I get it but all reports seem to point to this being a different scenario than Hayward's. This wasn't about a numbers game. Something was going on behind the scenes and, for the sake of team unity and health, it should stay there.

Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules

Trade value -
pick 101 = 96 points pick 114 = 66 points
pick 138 = 36.5 pick 150 = 31

Of course these are estimates. Not every chart uses the same valuation.

For those who were wondering why the 4th and 5th rounds and not swapping in the 3rd round- Cleveland does not have a 3rd round pick. It was traded to Buffalo. If it had been available Cleveland's pick would have had a value of 265 and GB 210.

The value chart kind of emphasizes there isn't a lot of value in the 5th round or later. That doesn't mean you can't find a player but the odds get pretty long. Cleveland could have actually swapped places in the 4-7th rounds and it wouldn't have greatly impacted the quality of athlete available.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

7 years ago

#54

This does bring up a good point.

DarkaneRules
Veteran Member

7 years ago

#55

Yea, that point was referenced earlier without credit, I believe. Even so, this locker room and coaching staff didn't work well with the guy, but that doesn't mean he should have a shot elsewhere. Perhaps thinks work out better with a different group of guys...

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member

7 years ago

#56

Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules

In this thread? I must have missed it. Apologies to whomever said it first.

DarkaneRules
Veteran Member

7 years ago

#57

Aww no no. They were just referencing it, but it was indirect. 🙂

Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance

beast
Select Member

7 years ago

#58

This does bring up a good point.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Has anyone said Randall was a turd? Sounds like people have been saying that he has physical potential but that he simply wore out his welcome in the Green Bay locker room.

In Cleveland, he has a fresh start and if he wears out his welcome there, then they can simply decided to not resign him when his contract runs up.

gbguy20
Veteran Member

7 years ago

#59

Totalpa ckers sure let him have it

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