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Though picking up Damarious Randall’s fifth-year option comes with risks, the upside outweighs the downside for the Packers. Though the NFL Scouting Combine  begins later this week and free agency looms just around the corner, the Green Bay Packers  have to attend to other roster concerns. In one of his first major acts as general manager of the Green Bay Packers, Brian Gutekunst must decide whether to pick up or decline the fifth-year option in cornerback Damarious Randall’s rookie contract.

As ESPN’s Rob Demovsky wrote on Monday , the Packers could decline Randall’s fifth-year option and still retain him long-term next offseason in a fashion similar to Nick Perry. On the surface, that plan makes some sense. Randall’s career has taken several sharp turns and revealed both a high ceiling and some maddening lows, much like Perry through his first three seasons. Declining Perry’s option prior to the 2016 season perhaps motivated the former first-round pick to turn in his best year, something that could likewise work for Randall.

However, this approach ignores that players at premium positions hold their greatest value on their rookie deals, and by declining a fifth, affordable year of Randall’s contract, the Packers risk letting that value drift off into the ether. For all his faults, Randall proved to be the defense’s most reliable cornerback during 2017 after a slow start. With Kevin King returning with a repaired shoulder and presumably another starting corner joining the secondary, Randall could reach new heights in a better-defined role.

Picking up Randall’s option doesn’t come without risks. Should he suffer an injury serious enough to affect his offseason, the Packers could find themselves on the hook for his 2019 salary regardless of whether they wish to retain his services. That dynamic might have contributed to the sizable three-year contract Blake Bortles , who underwent surgery on his wrist, received last week.

Still, a capable cornerback at the cost of Randall’s fifth-year option (estimated to fall between $8 and 9 million) looks far more affordable than what he could receive as an unrestricted free agent or under the franchise tag  should he deliver a strong 2018 campaign. The option would also give the Packers a better bargaining position should they attempt to sign him to a multiyear extension.



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Decline the 5th year and have him prove it in his 4th.
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Zero2Cool
6 years ago
Gotta take the 5th year. He was the best DB we had the last half of the season. Can't afford to let him go.
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Smokey
6 years ago
OK, Damarious Randall has some support in this forum. Can a rational case be made to retain him over another FA or Draft Rookie. Experience is not argument enough, even last seasons worst starting NFL CB can say they have experience.

Kevin King, fully healed, will enter his second season and IMO will be ready to show if he was worth the wait. I believe that he will not be a Pro-Bowler yet, but should be able to play at an above average level as a starter.

I hope that Training Camp will reveal a CB that can replace Randall as he has had time to rase his level of play such that none would question his play, but ...

Give him a 1 year deal that has written into it that he must 1st make the 2018 roster and 2nd his pay will be determined on weather or not he is a starter, per every game. Don't just give him the position.

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Zero2Cool
6 years ago

OK, Damarious Randall has some support in this forum. Can a rational case be made to retain him over another FA or Draft Rookie. Experience is not argument enough, even last seasons worst starting NFL CB can say they have experience.

Kevin King, fully healed, will enter his second season and IMO will be ready to show if he was worth the wait. I believe that he will not be a Pro-Bowler yet, but should be able to play at an above average level as a starter.

I hope that Training Camp will reveal a CB that can replace Randall as he has had time to rase his level of play such that none would question his play, but ...

Give him a 1 year deal that has written into it that he must 1st make the 2018 roster and 2nd his pay will be determined on weather or not he is a starter, per every game. Don't just give him the position.

Originally Posted by: Smokey 


This is a good point. Who do we have?

Damarious Randall
Kevin King
Quinten Rollins
Josh Hawkins
Lenzy Pipkins

I am going to have to keep rolling with do the 5th year option. I'm not really enamored with our CB's at all. Kevin King is probably going to be best of the group listed above, but I think D. Randall is the most talented when that space between his ears is proper.

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Smokey
6 years ago
I'm not sure just how many CBs attended GB's Training Camp last season, I'd guess maybe 10. That should be the case again I would think. Walk ons, free agents, and last seasons CBs should be in Training camp again this year.

I would like to see GB's new GM trade WR Cobb + a late round draft pick/s for an above average/or better CB. [biggrin]

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beast
6 years ago

Kevin King, fully healed, will enter his second season and IMO will be ready to show if he was worth the wait. I believe that he will not be a Pro-Bowler yet, but should be able to play at an above average level as a starter.

Originally Posted by: Smokey 


I'm still wondering if King will be fully healed... after all he said he got his injury as a freshmen in college, and so it hasn't fully healed in 4 years... will it ever fully heal?

Do you think you could keep Randall around for less than $8.5 million? It might be worth it to just give him the fifth year, as the Packers are thin at CB even with him... without him, then would need 2 more CBs... compared to maybe just one more with him (assuming he's playing well).
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isocleas2
6 years ago
The Randall we saw the 2nd half of 2017 is worth 8.5 mil a year, plus he's young enough to still get better. Combined with the Packers lack of depth at the position I think the option is a smart pickup. Look at Perry or Cobb you let a player at a premium position prove it and you may end up having to break the bank as consequence.
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