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7 years ago

A first-round pass rusher seems a good bet for the Packers. Mel Kiper Jr.'s first mock draft predicts they'll take UT-San Antonio's Marcus Davenport.

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I think Pettine will be able to scheme Clay to the QB. I also believe that Biegel and Fackrell will take a first/second year step.

That said, I would draft “bitch kitty” OLBs early and often.
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isocleas2
7 years ago
There are 3 or 4 big time pass rushing prospects that should be available at #14, I'd be happy with any of them. If we draft one of the top WR or CB prospects I won't mind either but it seems OLB should be more plentiful.



Rockmolder
7 years ago
I always wonder where guys like Davenport end up. The guy was a 2nd rounder not too long ago, but now the hypetrain has left the station and he's approaching a top 10 selection.

There's no doubt he's a good player and should be selected early, but I can't really find any reason for his tremendous surge upwards other than people expecting he'll do good at the Combine and the Senior Bowl.

I wonder if he'll deliver.
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7 years ago

I always wonder where guys like Davenport end up. The guy was a 2nd rounder not too long ago, but now the hypetrain has left the station and he's approaching a top 10 selection.

There's no doubt he's a good player and should be selected early, but I can't really find any reason for his tremendous surge upwards other than people expecting he'll do good at the Combine and the Senior Bowl.

I wonder if he'll deliver.

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That's why it's good to have elite scouts like Ted Thompson running the show.
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TheKanataThrilla
7 years ago
The hype I think is because of the position. A disruptive pass rusher is key to having a great defense.
Rockmolder
7 years ago

The hype I think is because of the position. A disruptive pass rusher is key to having a great defense.

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That's true. And Ferrell going back to school pushed him up, as well. It's just that he's getting hyped for reasons that make no sense. Always makes me question these mock drafts. Just like when they went absolutely crazy about Clausen based off eachothers rumours and moves.
yooperfan
7 years ago

That's why it's good to have elite scouts like Ted Thompson running the show.

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Ted Thompson should not be running anything!

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Ted Thompson should not be running anything!

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I agree, you don't fire the GM and then listen to him saying that's not what I'd do, because there was no clear and clean break. Ted Thompson can supply scouting reports, but he does not sit at the grown ups table anymore. In fact he should go and write his book, before he get's any more senile.

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7 years ago

I agree, you don't fire the GM and then listen to him saying that's not what I'd do, because there was no clear and clean break. Ted Thompson can supply scouting reports, but he does not sit at the grown ups table anymore. In fact he should go and write his book, before he get's any more senile.

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Gutekunst is still learning from The Master.
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7 years ago

I always wonder where guys like Davenport end up. The guy was a 2nd rounder not too long ago, but now the hypetrain has left the station and he's approaching a top 10 selection.

There's no doubt he's a good player and should be selected early, but I can't really find any reason for his tremendous surge upwards other than people expecting he'll do good at the Combine and the Senior Bowl.

I wonder if he'll deliver.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder 



Exactly. Getting 4.5 of his 8.5 sacks along with 35% of his tackles against powerhouse teams like Rice and North Texas instantly translates to being a stud in the NFL.

In addition isn't 255 a little too light to play DE? Sure they will bulk him up but in doing so it will take away some of his explosiveness.
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I hope we being to draft more guys:
- who have performed at a high level
- who have delivered at key times
- against quality competition

We don't need guys who magically perform well in underwear drills at the combine (when it does matter). Track history of successful game performance should be paramount in player selection.
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Early reports on Davenport aren't very good from the Senior Bowl. Very raw and unable to do anything in the 1-on-1s.

I wouldn't mind taking him, but I expect his Senior Bowl appearance to drop him out of 1st round talks. Maybe a 2nd round option?
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isocleas2
7 years ago

Early reports on Davenport aren't very good from the Senior Bowl. Very raw and unable to do anything in the 1-on-1s.

I wouldn't mind taking him, but I expect his Senior Bowl appearance to drop him out of 1st round talks. Maybe a 2nd round option?

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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000910983/article/bucky-brooks-mock-draft-10-broncos-jags-among-6-to-pick-qb?campaign=tw-nf-sf180344688-sf180344688&sf180344688=1 

Davenport + Key are the two players I'm most excited about drafting. Their potential is off the charts usually the Packers don't have a chance to draft anyone like this unless they had some serious character flaws. If neither of them is there at #14 i'd pick another position or trade down and select Landry in the 20's.

Edit: With 5 to 6 QBs likely to be drafted in the 1st round there should be atleast one player with a top 10 grade who slides to #14, or there will be some QB hungry team that makes an offer for the pick to get their guy.
DarkaneRules
7 years ago
If we get an edge rusher, I feel like he needs to be able to play with his hand in the dirt and standing up. We need to be interchangable when it comes to that position. He's not as big as Perry but he's faster. He's 21, so he can put on weight. His potential is very high. For that reason, I don't think he lasts to our pick.
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7 years ago
1) TT's new role is to scout and recommend players. He does not make the picks or the deals moving forward.

2) GB's new GM should already have a very good idea of who he would like to Draft, acquire in Free Agency, or retain from the 2017 Roster. The difference for 2018 is what will GB's new GM see as direction he will lead the team.

3) Opinions are like noses, we all have one. As for me, I think GB needs pass rusher(s) that terrorize opposing teams/QBs. Draft'em, get Free Agents, or discover one in Russia, but get'em.

4) Injuries will/should heal with the off season. Players like Rodgers, Montgomery, and others will return. In addition, some will begin their 2nd year in the league with valuable experience gained.

5) With a new GM and Coaches, players will need to fit into a changing environment. Let us try to be optimistic as to the direction that the Packers will take shall be a winning one.


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isocleas2
7 years ago

If we get an edge rusher, I feel like he needs to be able to play with his hand in the dirt and standing up. We need to be interchangable when it comes to that position. He's not as big as Perry but he's faster. He's 21, so he can put on weight. His potential is very high. For that reason, I don't think he lasts to our pick.

Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules 



Both Key and Davenport have that long lanky frame (6"6ish) that should be able to support 15-30 more pounds from offseason weight room sessions. I think they're more along the line of Julius Peppers than say a Clay Mathews, either can play from OLB or DE in a traditional 4-3 when they're a little bigger. With Clark + Daniels pushing the middle, and Mathews/Perry (whoever is healthy) rushing one side, the Packers just need one more good edge rusher to have a dominate pass rush.

I'm a believer in the dominate pass rush being able to make up for a questionable secondary. If the Packers draft a CB I'll understand it but i'm really pulling for someone who can get after the quarterback.
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I can't help but wonder if they kept Ted to just be nice to him. Not just axe him.

And no "prospect" is more then that, a prospect. As we have seen before, success at the college level doesn't always mean success at the pro level. It's all a crap shoot.
If you get lucky, you get someone actually good.
And with Ted not controlling the draft picks, maybe we won't pick a guy in the first round with great potential, who has a bad knee, bad ankle, bad hamstring and concussion issues.
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