uffda udfa
7 years ago
The more and more I process and reprocess the events of the last several days, I'm starting to wonder if what is happening on the inside is one gigantic power struggle.

Reading the tea leaves, it appears Mike McCarthy feels the org has not done enough to win SBs. Mark Murphy craves sameness and feels Russ Ball is the man best able to keep the status quo. The last thing Mike McCarthy wants is more of the same as he'd grown frustrated with Ted and his shoot low approach, and saw this change as an opportunity for the org to get better not stay the same.

MM kept talking about fit and went off about this org not doing enough to win SuperBowls. Murphy appears to be about anything but SuperBowls as his underwhelming presser showed a man who seemed clueless, weak, and dishonest.

Is it possible Mike McCarthy is our only hope at becoming an organization about winning SuperBowls? The power struggle appears to be real.

One thing I do believe is the org is more than aware of what the fans think. Murphy knew Ted was a "lightning rod" as he referenced in his presser. 1265 has to know that the talk of Russ Ball has greatly upset many in the fanbase. Will it acquiesce to McCarthy's wishes and really offer compensation to bring John Schneider home. He makes the most sense given the situation where everyone can save face. MM will stay...Murphy gets to look like a hero for bringing the local boy home and the org can get on, finally, to be about the business of winning SuperBowls.

Never thought in a million years I'd be cheering on Mike McCarthy but I truly hope his bravado and his demeanor expressed at his presser carries weight and changes minds within the organization to try and be winners not financially stable.
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DoddPower
7 years ago

The more and more I process and reprocess the events of the last several days, I'm starting to wonder if what is happening on the inside is one gigantic power struggle.

Reading the tea leaves, it appears Mike McCarthy feels the org has not done enough to win SBs. Mark Murphy craves sameness and feels Russ Ball is the man best able to keep the status quo. The last thing Mike McCarthy wants is more of the same as he'd grown frustrated with Ted and his shoot low approach, and saw this change as an opportunity for the org to get better not stay the same.

Mike McCarthy kept talking about fit and went off about this org not doing enough to win SuperBowls. Murphy appears to be about anything but SuperBowls as his underwhelming presser showed a man who seemed clueless, weak, and dishonest.

Is it possible Mike McCarthy is our only hope at becoming an organization about winning SuperBowls? The power struggle appears to be real.

One thing I do believe is the org is more than aware of what the fans think. Murphy knew Ted was a "lightning rod" as he referenced in his presser. 1265 has to know that the talk of Russ Ball has greatly upset many in the fanbase. Will it acquiesce to McCarthy's wishes and really offer compensation to bring John Schneider home. He makes the most sense given the situation where everyone can save face. Mike McCarthy will stay...Murphy gets to look like a hero for bringing the local boy home and the org can get on, finally, to be about the business of winning SuperBowls.

Never thought in a million years I'd be cheering on Mike McCarthy but I truly hope his bravado and his demeanor expressed at his presser carries weight and changes minds within the organization to try and be winners not financially stable.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



After watching Murphy's recent press conference, it's clear he pays attention to media stories. He referenced being aware of several things that have been recently reported. Maybe he's a Donald Trump type. Can't help but constantly consume mainstream media. Poor guys.
uffda udfa
7 years ago

After watching Murphy's recent press conference, it's clear he pays attention to media stories. He referenced being aware of several things that have been recently reported. Maybe he's a Donald Trump type. Can't help but constantly consume mainstream media. Poor guys.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



The best part is he said he doesn't or "tries not to". Apparently, he's not trying hard enough. No surprise a guy like him ain't trying hard enough. :)


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DoddPower
7 years ago

The best part is he said he doesn't or "tries not to". Apparently, he's not trying hard enough. No surprise a guy like him ain't trying hard enough. :)

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



I was surprised how aware he appeared to be of media and fan chatter. I doubt Ted Thompson, Bill Belichick, etc. pay much attention to those things, and I don't blame them. The media are pawns only seeking ratings to maximize profits for their shareholders. Nothing else really matters for them, which is ultimately understandable. Maintaining consistent ethical and objective reporting doesn't necessarily pay the bills or increase revenue. Publicity generally does though.
uffda udfa
7 years ago

I was surprised how aware he appeared to be of media and fan chatter. I doubt Ted Thompson, Bill Belichick, etc. pay much attention to those things, and I don't blame them. The media are pawns only seeking ratings to maximize profits for their shareholders. Nothing else really matters for them, which is ultimately understandable. Maintaining consistent ethical and objective reporting doesn't necessarily pay the bills or increase revenue. Publicity generally does though.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



The above is true but I believe Green Bay has a unique media situation. It's the only game in town so to speak. I think when the team is that interwoven into the fabric of the community it is very different and Packers media falls in line. I have never ever seen what I've seen with Packers media in any other pro sport. On twitter you regularly have competitors giving shouts out to "great stories" being done by their competitors. It's one big close knit group that is seemingly all about the promotion of the Packers where in other cities it's about the truth with a fair share of "negativity" thrown in. Bob fits in all the other media markets but is a bad fit for Green Bay but is sorely needed here. More like him are needed. The environment is the tamest of the tame. Ted Thompson doesn't last as long in New York, or Philly, or Dallas as he did in Green Bay. Sadly, the only reason he's gone has nothing to do with why he wouldn't have lasted in other places.

I watched Murphy's presser, twice over. I just cringed. Literally. I was aghast this is the guy who the fate of the franchise rests in. I think I'd feel more comfortable with Seneca Wallace needing make a big play for us on the field than Murphy making one off it.

The Packers board must be one goofy group of people. Oh, I know they're all supposedly "successful business people" but I'd like to meet each and every one of them. That group on the whole has to be about as underwhelming as Mark Murphy to be okay with Mark Murphy being CEO. Admittedly, I've never really spent much time looking into the structure. Perhaps, I will do so as I'm not up to speed there. I'm terrified of what I might find. Instead of one big fat cat owner, we might have a bunch of "little man syndromes" running around not much different collectively but worse than one big fat cat billionaire.

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nerdmann
7 years ago
It’s clear Mark Murphy is an incompetent joke. No wonder he hired an outside firm to do his job for him.





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steveishere
7 years ago
I would bet that nothing that's happened this offseason is anywhere near as gigantic or dramatic as you have been assuming it is but there is some truth to most of the rumors that have come out.
nerdmann
7 years ago

I would bet that nothing that's happened this offseason is anywhere near as gigantic or dramatic as you have been assuming it is but there is some truth to most of the rumors that have come out.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



Mike has just pulled rank on the "team president." The guy we have instead of an owner. And that guy didn't stand up to him.

Pathetic.
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7 years ago
Pathetic??? I really don't think so...Food for thought...I am not on the inside, but consider what might have been the case over the last few years/weeks/days...to me, the following reconstruction of events makes sense....perhaps:
1. MM wanted to change the DC for years, but Ted Thompson and Murphy wanted an experienced, known quantity in that spot. Someone with HC experience.
2. MM was not allowed to pay up and keep creative, talented coaches. Instead we had Tom Clemens, Edgar Bennett, AVP, et al....guys no one else wants to hire. This was likely very frustrating to MM, but he held his tongue, because with 12, he still had shot.
3. Further, he is tired of the draft and develop as ARod and he both have limited time
4. MM reads McGinn and other other people "in-the-know" and the "word" came out that Ball is the guy. I BELIEVE HE WAS.
5. MM goes apeshit and says that he is done if that happens...there lots of HC vacancies and he can have his pick.
6. MM enlists ARod, another great soldier, who has kept his mouth shut about the malaise and group think...but both have had enough....and they say so.
7. With his star QB and head coach both voicing displeasure, MMurph rethinks the decision.
8. But now, full of piss and vinegar, with nothing to lose, instead of being satisfied with a with a decent GM, as he might have been, MM wants to guarantee that any new GM will not be able to make stupid roster decisions without his ability to directly appeal to Murphy.
9. The deal with G is probably.
- MM is the coach until he is not.
- As a new GM, you would not fire a Super Bowl winning coach without checking with the boss anyway....so whats the big deal.
- The next head coach will report to G anyway
10. All of this makes me think MM wants to go outside for a proven DC...someone he does not have to babysit.
11. Fangio is the perfect fit, because if the offense does not get more creative and effective in tight man coverage, MM will be gone. Assuming Fangio does a good job with the D, he is next in line.
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rabidgopher04
7 years ago

I was surprised how aware he appeared to be of media and fan chatter.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



He probably lurks here, no doubt. 😝

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