Barfarn
7 years ago

We had a tour of investors coming in back when I was working in national radio in Chicago. Our guys were instructed to do a fake interview with Michael Jordan to give the impression we were able to get Michael Jordan on the phone when we wanted. I don't know how we pulled it off but they bought it and left impressed thinking we were a group that had access to MJ. All staged. All fake in the name of an end. We wanted their money.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



You pulled it off by committing an actionable FRAUD! If some of the investors were Banks; that constitutes one of 2 predicate acts to established a Civil RICO claim. If the negotiations were carried thru US Mail, there's your 2nd predicate act.

BTW, I was an investor in a handful of radio stations that had affiliates in Chicago in the 80s and 90s; what station was that?

I digress.

What you have just testified to is that the media considers TRUTH as a distant third to money/clicks and agenda. This MUST be considered when reading ANY story put out by ANY media outlet including this fairy tale published by McGinn.

The theory is that Mike is mad he didn't get FAs. Well, over the last several years Ball was the money guy. A coach or GM can want Lang or Hyde, but if the money guy says, "NO!" Then that's it. If Mike successfully whines like a little bitch baby for a different GM, Ball remains the money guy and NOTHING CHANGES! If Ball is GM and he doesn't know talent, Mike has the ability to influence him about what is best for the team and they'll be a new Money guy.

Also, the story supposedly says Mike lined up his staff and said he's leaving if Ball is GM. Even if true, that Mike doesn't want Ball, to do it in this fashion, knowing he's going to fire many of these guys is 100% certifiably STUPID. If he did this, by now the story would be all over. But, its been a week and still the only source of this fairy Tail is McGinn.

McGinn is a lying or was duped about this fairy tail as well.
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7 years ago
Barfan and Uffda,
Would you say something to Murphey if you were Aaron Rodgers?
In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK
uffda udfa
7 years ago
I couldn't agree more with...speak now or forever hold your peace. This is a once in a career moment for 12 and his and everyone's future. An old HS teacher used to always say...silence gives consent. Might be partially why I go off like I do when I see something I don't like. I would've said something by now.

None of us know what Aaron is thinking but his lack of extension while seeing some fans brag how smart it was to spread cap hits on Adams and Linsley by getting deals done before season's end raises more questions about 12s lack of one. He may want out so his career isn't ended up in this mess we have here. The mess has been here for years, it's just exposed a bit more now.

I am very happy Jason Wilde confirmed Bob's story on MM threatening to quit if Ball is GM. He knew the same things Bob did but said... maybe, I'm too chicken. Later, said he didn't have the guts to write it as he didn't have it cold like Bob. Bob is a legend and has tons of contacts that Wilde surely doesn't. Thanks to him we again get a peek at something we never would've with our weak chicken gutless media who won't report uncomfortable things due to relationship. Bob and his reporting is not only good for us but it's good for Packers media as a whole as they're prodded to speak to it and do better themselves. Bob has kicked everyone's @ss on this story and will continue to.

I've never listened to a Wilde and Tausch pod but I recommend the one from yesterday on MM walking away if Ball gets hired. 15 quick minutes. You can hear another voice besides Bob detail this story. It's multi sourced now. No question MM did tell his staff he was leaving if it's Ball. Kind of ironic MM and I feel the same way.

I love the fact it's out MM has been frustrated with our front office and is even willing to walk because he doesn't feel they're sold out to win Championships. Same thing I said here for years while a lot of you defended our approach. It's clear our HC didn't agree with you and is willing to walk over it. Total vindication for years of crap I took here. The longtime HC of the Packers felt same way and saw the same things I did.
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nerdmann
7 years ago

Questions for the group...

Per numerous articles (of questionable veracity) along with MM, ARod is not a Ball fan. If so Should he say something to Murphy?
- His contract is up and he is in an EXTREMELY powerful negotiating position.
- He is not a spring chicken, and realizes he likely only has 5-7 years of optimal performance in the tank.
- I believe he is an extremely bright perceptive young man, who probably knows whats wrong moreso that most of his bosses.
- Whether anyone likes it or not....he is the franchise. I am guessing however, he doesn't want to be. He would like the team to succeed when he can't play, and right now that is not happening

Also, do you think he already has, and the cavalcade of changes may have been partially brought about by his input?
Not that he listens to me, but my advice would be..."Speak now, or forever hold your peace"

Originally Posted by: KRK 



The tail can’t be wagging the dog. We already had that wih Bert Favor. Fortunately we had a GM like Ted who was not afraid to stand up to the inflated superstar and put him back in his place.

It was for the good of the franchise then, and it would be now.
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KRK
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7 years ago
N,

Don't you think comparing AROD with BF is terribly unfair.

I think AROD is a consummate team player...I would love to have him on my team, even if he wasn't as good as he is. Works hard, doesn't whine, etc.

BF was a prima donna in every sense of the word. That "aw shucks" schtick was bullshit....it was, and is, all about Brett. Deanna is a saint...
the whole "I'm retiring, no I'm not" BS was incredibly selfish and hurtful to the team.

For the good of the franchise them, they put a fork in him....for the good of the franchise now, they should listen to their biggest asset IMHO
In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK
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