uffda udfa
6 years ago
http://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/silverstein/2018/01/03/silverstein-russ-ball-good-bet-next-packers-gm/1000141001/ 

--just freaking great. Goodbye Packers. We had a heckuva run, if true...
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Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


musccy
6 years ago
Please don't let this be true. Ive heard from numerous other outlets that this was in the works. Goodbye to our top 3 with scouting backgrounds if this happens.
gbguy20
6 years ago
Hrrrmph
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nerdmann
6 years ago

Please don't let this be true. Ive heard from numerous other outlets that this was in the works. Goodbye to our top 3 with scouting backgrounds if this happens.

Originally Posted by: musccy 



Elliot ain’t going anywhere. Especially not if he’s smart. Dude is what, 31 years old? Have some patience, kid. Sit and watch, learn how it’s done from the master.

I kind of like the idea of Ted “doing his thing” and Ball doing the rest, which is to say, interacting with the media and looking at free agents. This is a “best of both worlds” scenario. Assuming it works out.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
musccy
6 years ago
Eliot is 35 and has been doing scouting reports for 20 years. I'm not saying he's the golden boy, but what scouting experience does Russ have? To my knowledge, absolutely none.

Eliot and Brian damn near had jobs in Detroit and San Fran already, so I don't see how we retain either for long. Alonzo is gone too, so now your top 3 in scouting/personnel in charge so you can put a non-scout in charge.

I hope I'm wrong, but how could anyone be excited to jump into this lake?
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6 years ago
Russ Ball = Ali Parker (Jennifer Garner) without the skirt.
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Barfarn
6 years ago
Why does the GM have to be a great scout?

Does the head of a hospital need to be a great surgeon?

Back in the day, the coach was one of the better players on the team; guys went both ways. Now we’re smarter.

Great players never make great coaches because their personal experiences bias their ability to objectively direct other players effectively. I’m sure there are times when Ted’s brilliance in talent evaluation biased/handicapped his ability to see certain things in certain players and maybe he didn’t listen to other scouts with a mind as wide open as it should have been.

Ball not being a superscout requires him to rely on the scouting opinions of others with less bias.

I want a robot GM like Ted that has a plan and sticks to it come hell or high water. Flamboyant degenerate gamblers, like Schnieder, never succeed. I want a GM that is the smartest guy in any room in which he walks; a guy that is a true leader of men; a guy expert in delegation and skilled at surrounding himself with the best of the best of the best. That’s Ball.
DoddPower
6 years ago

I want a GM that is the smartest guy in any room in which he walks; a guy that is a true leader of men; a guy expert in delegation and skilled at surrounding himself with the best of the best of the best. That’s Ball.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



How do you know this?

Smokey
6 years ago
IMO, Elliot Wolf has the knowledge, experience, heritage, and the earned respect needed to be GB's next GM. At 35 years old, he will bring a more youthful view to the office that would be tempered by his carrier experience. If I trust anyone already in the GB organization to make good deals for the Packers/pick good draft picks, it is the Pack's next lead Wolf.

[cheers]

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uffda udfa
6 years ago
When they hire Ball, I will be spot on that all they did is hide Ted and let him run things out of the public eye.

This is one sick blanking org. As usual, buddy club goes on...Ted isn't fired nor MM. That duo gets to continue wasting 12s career and I won't watch.

How anyone could support this pathetic group of people anymore is hard for me to understand. Mark Murphy is disgusting and vile.

The big change is getting rid of some pitiful assistants that should've either never been here or were here way too long.

Patriots, Saints, Jags, Bills, Chiefs...trying to decide who to spend my time on going forward if this proves true. I will hope 0-16 for the Green Bay Packers every year if they pull off this giant ruse on it's way too loyal and trusting fanbase. I've been a fool way too long accepting their shoot low mentality. Murphy closed in perfect pathetic Packer fashion....We need to get back to what our fans expect and that's having a chance at SBs. Doesn't speak of winning them...back to having a chance. Failures and losers there speaking in this spineless bean counting manner.

Spent years anxiously awaiting real change only to be lied to in the worst and sickest of ways only to have the same weirdo who is now unfit in charge. I can't enable it. There's not much choice if you want to maintain any dignity.

I feel sorry for Packers fans everywhere. You really need to look at what this org is doing and decide if you want to be party to it with your time.
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