Ha Ha Clinton-Dix questions draft-and-develop strategy in Green Bay

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

6 years ago

I like his candor, but I still think once Rodgers went down he quit on his TEAM.

Through the life of true free agency, the Packers have been truly hesitant to fully utilize this tool for improving the roster. Despite making a huge splash with the successful recruitment of Reggie White in 1993, the Packers have been overly cautious since then, with the biggest arrivals coming in 2006 (Charles Woodson), Julius Peppers [more]

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Nonstopdrivel
Preferred Member

6 years ago

No one can resist the urge to kick the puppy (or should we call him the old dog?) when he's down. Then again, there's probably no one who would entirely disagree with Clinton-Dix on this score. The Packers' reliance on inexperienced rookies as backups does certainly make them vulnerable to injury, or so it's seemed over recent years.

Nonstopdrivel
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6 years ago

Oops. Scooped. Feel free to merge this thread.

steveishere
Veteran Member

6 years ago

Haha didn't really do a good job of selling it but I understand the point. It's important to have promising developmental prospects on your roster but your whole back up squad cannot be projects. There had to be players out there that could have been more useful than guys like Chris Odom, Donatello Brown, or Jermaine Whitehead. We already have young project guys at those same positions at Edge we have Biegel, Fackrell, Gilbert, CB/S we have Pipkins, Evans, Hawkins, Brice... I mean that's plenty, there are enough FAs that you don't have to drop 6/7m to get some vets in to compete. House is a good example he was well worth the price we paid and was a heck of a lot better than our project players despite being riddled with injuries all season. Gotta mix it up.

wpr
Preferred Member

6 years ago

A few years ago I hated hearing the talking heads tell us that GB had the lowest number of players who had been with another team.

You don't want to have the most retreads but you don't want to consistently have the least.

Somewhere between 10-15 would make sense.

musccy
Veteran Member

6 years ago

I don't disagree with the general idea, in fact I think the Packers were active in trying to plug needs with FA this year. It didn't work so well thanks to injuries, Bennett, etc. but I agree with the approach.

It annoys me to hear this coming from HaHa, though. Maybe if he didn't appear to bail on the season and check out on plays (e.g. Abdullah rushing TD Sunday) the Pack wouldn't have had some of the issues we saw.

TheKanataThrilla
Veteran Member

6 years ago

And I will bring up the elephant that I believe most FAs don't want to come to Green Bay unless we overpay and Ted was never the GM that wanted to do that. I live in Ottawa and I know most NHL free agents don't want to come here. Yes we struck gold with White, Woody and Peppers, but we paid handsomely for all of those players to come here. Do we really want to pay a premium for players in back-up roles? But we have done well in that regard as well. Guion (when not suspended) and Evans this year were very serviceable veteran FAs.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

6 years ago

Originally Posted by: musccy

If I were Clinton-Dix, the last thing I would be doing is saying any words to bring any attention to myself. The season he had was (as nerdmann likes to say) embarrassing!

beast
Select Member

6 years ago

Yeah draft and development isn't working BECAUSE HAHA ISN'T DEVELOPING!!!!

As for what HaHa claimed against draft and development... he missed the mark... that's not draft and development, at least not if he's talking about the Safety position. As if two rookies step up and look like they can replace an expensive vet most teams will move on. And Bush and Richardson were taken out by other factors.

Also is he saying his current young DB mates can't be held accountable?

Though if he's talking about QB in a round about way there he might be right.

nerdmann
Premier Member

6 years ago

#10

I like his candor, but I still think once Rodgers went down he quit on his TEAM.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Who does he think Micah Hyde was? Chris Banjo? All these guys? GUYS WHO WERE BACK UPS. 5e very people he says don’t exist.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

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Zero2Cool (3h) : Crazy of Bears to have that mindset that is

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beast (14h) : Not nessarily, he might of been injured either way. He's playing about 50% of the games the last 4 years

Zero2Cool (21h) : If they'd been more patient with him, he'd be back already. Putting him out there vs Bears caused him to tweak it and here we are.

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Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Oh I know about Jacobs, I just couldn't pass up an opportunity to mimic Zero lol

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packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I just checked. What tie breaker?

bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.

bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?

bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference

Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network

beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th

beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.

bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed

Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno

beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?

packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans

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