7 years ago
just got done talking to a very knowledgeable football guru and he got me thinking, giving a new role to Thompson is like a Master Chief being in charge of the motor pool.
7 years ago
I think a new GM may want to make a splash/signature draft pick this year to make his mark on the team early. I say it's a trade up for Saquon Barkley.
nerdmann
7 years ago

Who hires the DC? Mike McCarthy or the new GM. It would seem to me to be MM.

If you were an experienced DC, you would not want to come into an organization where your boss might be gone in a year. Accordingly, don't be surprised to see Mike McCarthy get extended for at least a year or two before any decision on DC is made. The delay caused by negotiations could be costly.

The only exception is if an internal candidate is named.

Originally Posted by: KRK 



The way I look at it, these player extensions were worked out as part of this overall move.

EDIT:Ok, I get what you're saying, delays caused by negotiating with staff. This is one reason it appears to me they are going to promote from within.
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beast
7 years ago

Who hires the DC? Mike McCarthy or the new GM. It would seem to me to be MM.

If you were an experienced DC, you would not want to come into an organization where your boss might be gone in a year. Accordingly, don't be surprised to see Mike McCarthy get extended for at least a year or two before any decision on DC is made. The delay caused by negotiations could be costly.

The only exception is if an internal candidate is named.

Originally Posted by: KRK 


If you're an available, experienced DC then you probably know with a few exceptions that any and all coach might be gone in a year including you, as you were fired before, it's part of their professions' life style. And you probably know Mike McCarthy (with a healthy Rodgers) has a good as chance as anyone (except maybe Bill Belichick) to keep going forward getting more extensions.

I feel like the cold weather might scare some of the coaches currently in warm weather off more, then possibility being fired, because you can be fired at any time.

just got done talking to a very knowledgeable football guru and he got me thinking, giving a new role to Thompson is like a Master Chief being in charge of the motor pool.

Originally Posted by: packerfanoutwest 


It depends on the new role. If Thompson is some sort of lead/teacher scout, then it'd be like a Master Chief being asked to teach prep cooks to prepare them for their future in the kitchen.

I think a new GM may want to make a splash/signature draft pick this year to make his mark on the team early. I say it's a trade up for Saquon Barkley.

Originally Posted by: TedThompsonsShades 


I feel like a bigger splash would be edge rusher, CB or WR.

UserPostedImage
7 years ago
Not the best draft for a WR like that. Minkah Fitzpatrick maybe for DB.
beast
7 years ago

Not the best draft for a WR like that. Minkah Fitzpatrick maybe for DB.

Originally Posted by: TedThompsonsShades 



WR Courtland Sutton seems to have all the potential in the world and WR Calvin Ridley always seem to get open. But you're right, normally the Packers seem to be able to find a good WR in the 2nd.

I've mainly been thinking edge rusher.

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DoddPower
7 years ago
I actually think Ted Thompson could be highly valuable to an organization, just not as the General Manager. The guy is a scout through and through. Let him grind away in a role focused on unknown players, UDFA, over-achievers, and WRs. Trust his recommendations for those moments, but have someone else make all the other decisions and manage the organization.

There are a lot of great technicians out there that have no business being a manager. The positions require different skill sets. Ted is a scout, and in some ways, a good one. Just not for defense.
musccy
7 years ago

I think a new GM may want to make a splash/signature draft pick this year to make his mark on the team early. I say it's a trade up for Saquon Barkley.

Originally Posted by: TedThompsonsShades 



No thank you. This team has a boat load more needs than an offensive skill position. No need to pull a Ricky Williams here. I can't imagine any GM would entertain that idea either, just for the sake of a splash.
nerdmann
7 years ago
My money’s on Gutekunst, but I like Alonzo Highsmith. That’s who I’d go with.
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musccy
7 years ago

My money’s on Gutekunst, but I like Alonzo Highsmith. That’s who I’d go with.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



I'm not saying I am/not a fan of his, but Eliot is the highest ranking in the personnel department currently, so if it's an internal hire, I don't understand why Eliot would be leap-frogged.

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