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6 years ago

Kev, You already know I want Scot McCloughan so why do that? I wrote you an email yesterday that I wanted Scot and why I wanted him. There is no aura..no draw to the Green Bay Packers outside of Aaron Rodgers. He's a huge draw, but the rest of our org is vapid. We need some credibility. Ted was seen as a joke and a dinosaur as was pointed out in a not long ago Mike Freeman piece. There is no respectability here and I think bringing in an established veteran who has been successful is needed right now. If we go Ball or even Eliot whom I was okay with previously, I think it's just more of the same. Promote from within, do the simple thing, don't really try to get better. It would fit with the flatline approach over the years with Ted. We need BIG hires at GM and DC not run of the mill typical expected old Packers org mentality stuff. A Ball at GM and Darren Perry at DC would be Ted time in a nutshell. A McCloughan and Rex Ryan would send a loud message around the league that the Packers are serious about winning SB's. A Perry Ball hiring combo shows Packers are status quo and just trying to be as similar as possible to that past flatline approach.

Of course, I was worried about Scot's past personal issues, but if he's good to go, I think it makes sense to bring him back. I do not want Reggie McKenzie. When I heard him speak I almost fell on the floor. It was so unexpected. He sounded as bad as Lester Hayes after the Raiders won the SB.

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Tell me what makes you think he has gotten over his alcoholism issues? He has been fired 3 times in the last 10 years because of it. Don't get me wrong, I hope he is better but what proof do you have that he is? Personally I am more than a little concerned that the pressure of being a GM is too much for him to handle. Let him run his scouting company and make a decent living that way. Who knows, perhaps he will live longer that way.
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uffda udfa
6 years ago
I have none, Wayne and never intimated he was over his issues. I understand he has trouble with alcohol...I said IF he has his personal life straight, he's the guy I want. He's risky due to the nature of his past, and that almost surely will rule him out with safe plain jane Green Bay, but this is who I want, IF.

Unfortunately, I'm resigned more and more to the fact the GM search is a ruse and we're going to promote a bean counter to GM. Just lovely. Russ Ball will be making draft choices and using FA what little he does as a bean counter. I guess I shouldn't be too upset all he really has to do is listen to Sam Seale and we can bring in all the left coast draftees we can handle, if Sam doesn't leave, also.

Buck said something that is resonating today for the first time ever with me... Careful what you wish for. Russ Ball would be like rehiring Ted Thompson again to me, and I won't go through it again as a follower of this team. Enough would be enough. I'd find a new team to support. It would be tough but I would do it or just bail on the NFL altogether.

Ball can't have a more dysfunctional personality so that might be nice but what does he know about football? A D2 player who is in finance.

Give me the guy who has issues with alcohol..we've already lived through what we've lived through so this shouldn't be any worse.


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steveishere
6 years ago
Yeah, I like Scot McCloughan and he even interacts with fans on twitter but there's just no way I'd trust the franchise to him. Maybe if he wanted to come in as the top scout or even run the whole draft if Ball gets the GM job but I just don't think you can make him the top guy.
Cheesey
6 years ago
Murphy wouldn't admit if the board pushed him to can Ted.
He has to at least look like it's all him.

We need a new GM, that's for certain. Hopefully the new guy will put the team first, and the money side second.
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uffda udfa
6 years ago

Yeah, I like Scot McCloughan and he even interacts with fans on twitter but there's just no way I'd trust the franchise to him. Maybe if he wanted to come in as the top scout or even run the whole draft if Ball gets the GM job but I just don't think you can make him the top guy.

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That would be even better. Scot and Ted are best buddies. Scot loves Ted. They're very different people and I do love his interaction on Twitter. We need a more fan friendly GM.

I just wonder if that's going to happen in a lower capacity given he could've then come in a lower capacity before now.

This is an exciting time that could just as easily end in a dull thud like so many playoff exits depending on what they do. Org has a real chance to energize the fanbase and I just hope they don't blow it. The change is great but it can't be to the same.


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Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


Zero2Cool
6 years ago

Yeah, I like Scot McCloughan and he even interacts with fans on twitter but there's just no way I'd trust the franchise to him. Maybe if he wanted to come in as the top scout or even run the whole draft if Ball gets the GM job but I just don't think you can make him the top guy.

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Scot is my choice
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