Smokey
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7 years ago
If GB manages to finish with a 8 - 8 record for 2017, then they may just get to pick somewhere in the middle of the 2018 Draft. That could be from the 14th to the 17th pick.

Last years draft pick at those spots were:

#14 pick /Eagles
DE Derek Barnett - Tenn

#15 pick / Colts
FS Malik Hooker - Ohio State

#16 pick / Ravens
CB Marlon Humphrey - Alabama

#17 pick / Redskins
DT Jonathan Allen - Alabama


These players have scored from an A to a B by Bleacher Report for their 2017 Seasons (so far). If GB can do as well, they could get a high value DE.

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stevegb
7 years ago
The 3-4 defense traditionally revolves around the front 7 particularly the play-making ability of the LB's. Our starting line-backers consists of one emerging stud (Blake Martinez) the rest at this point are average at best. CM3 is done maybe he could be used as a specialist with limited snaps. Perry had a nice start to the year and a good contract year (shocker) but as always is very inconsistent or injured and Ahmad Brooks is solid but aging. I think its well overdue to invest in some high end OLB's to provide some consistent pressure and stop the DB's from looking awful every game and start take advantage of the great job the front 3 have been doing this year. That's just my opinion anyway.
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nerdmann
7 years ago

The 3-4 defense traditionally revolves around the front 7 particularly the play-making ability of the LB's. Our starting line-backers consists of one emerging stud (Blake Martinez) the rest at this point are average at best. CM3 is done maybe he could be used as a specialist with limited snaps. Perry had a nice start to the year and a good contract year (shocker) but as always is very inconsistent or injured and Ahmad Brooks is solid but aging. I think its well overdue to invest in some high end OLB's to provide some consistent pressure and stop the DB's from looking awful every game and start take advantage of the great job the front 3 have been doing this year. That's just my opinion anyway.

Originally Posted by: stevegb 



I would take OLB with our top 4 picks. Best available. Then again, I said that last year too.
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hugo teles
7 years ago
I hope that in this season finale, the packers do not win any games and end up with 7-9.
It will give us a much better position in the draft and probably better players for the next season.
They need to choose very well, the defense needs extreme help.
It is also necessary to act in force in this free agency.
The jags have achieved Calais Campbell and AJ Boye the Packers need to act of the same genre, otherwise they are lose the years of Aaron

Smokey
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7 years ago
IMO, GB needs to draft the "best available" monster that can sack opposing QBs.

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beast
7 years ago

IMO, GB needs to draft the "best available" monster that can sack opposing QBs.

[cheers]

Originally Posted by: Smokey 



Yeah I'm mainly thinking it's going to be OT, CB or Edge Rusher (OLB)

With a slight chance it's going to be a DT or WR.

Of course this is assuming they resign Adams and Burnett.
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Smokey
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7 years ago

Yeah I'm mainly thinking it's going to be OT, CB or Edge Rusher (OLB)

With a slight chance it's going to be a DT or WR.

Of course this is assuming they resign Adams and Burnett.

Originally Posted by: beast 



TT's "policy" is to pick the best available player/players in the draft. Recently though need has overcome that policy.

If for GB's 1st pick in the 2018 Draft the "best available" player is an offensive lineman and Ted Thompson grabs him over a pass rusher, would anyone be disappointed. I would be, as I believe that GB's greatest need is a monster pass rusher.


[cheers]

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beast
7 years ago

TT's "policy" is to pick the best available player/players in the draft. Recently though need has overcome that policy.

If for GB's 1st pick in the 2018 Draft the "best available" player is an offensive lineman and Ted Thompson grabs him over a pass rusher, would anyone be disappointed. I would be, as I believe that GB's greatest need is a monster pass rusher.


[cheers]

Originally Posted by: Smokey 



I feel like Thompson selects the guy whom they think has the highest talent ceiling potential at a key position. Because there are just certain important positions that get a lot more attention high in the draft.

I agree the greatest needs are stud pass rushers and stud coverage guys.
But protecting Aaron Rodgers is also important.. and Bulaga tore his ACL late in the season, which means he might start the season on the PUP list and not return until mid season. And the NFL has this habit the last couple of years of putting a number of high profile match-ups early in the year.

We'll get to see 8 the Packers trust Spriggs and Murphy to be the starting options at RT or if they want to expand on those options in FA and draft.

Also I'm currently not loving the edge rushers in this draft... that could change once I get to study them more.
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Smokey
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7 years ago
Perhaps this tread will generate more interest in the upcoming Bowl games. I will have a pad and pen ready to wright down some potential draft choices. [sneaky]
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KRK
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7 years ago
Smokey, I think this thread is a great idea, but it requires people to think and do homework....

In the ideal world, we would have the cap room to fill offensive line holes with free agents thereby acquiring known quality. The first priority is to protect the franchise. Then, we would draft on the defensive side.

The first problem is that (other than Jahri Evans) we seem reluctant to acquire FA's on the line. The learning curve is relatively long for offensive linemen and letting them make their mistakes elsewhere before signing them here would be the correct strategy, if we had the willingness.

The second problem is that when we draft on the defensive side, there seems to be an inability to get that talent to perform at an acceptable level of performance. This may be because:
- We draft poorly
- We coach them poorly
- There is a disconnect between the skills drafted and the skills needed to play our system
- All of the above
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