Porforis
7 years ago
I see a lot of people, both here and elsewhere on the internet often making comments to other people about how they just parrot back what [insert media outlet/leftwing/talk radio/etc here] tells them about particular issues. While there's definitely people that do that, at a certain point it relies on an assumption that people only consume media that they agree with.

I can't speak for everyone else, but most of the people I know and speak to consume MOST of their media from political outlets that are aligned with their views, but also consume media from sources that they're otherwise not aligned with to get a different/competing perspective on things. Speaking for myself, I'm fiscally moderate (leaning liberal) and socially liberal. Roughly half of my media exposure is CNN (left leaning), maybe 15% on top of that is social media (generally left-leaning), and the remaining 35% or so comes from Fox News or local conservative talk radio, or national talk radio.

Without getting into political debates - what kind of media do you consume? Do you restrict yourself to one or two media outlets which you are politically aligned with, or do you expose yourself to competing viewpoints? Why?
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7 years ago
I really don't trust the media (left or right) to do the right thing. They will do and say whatever they need to do in order to maximize profits.
Commentators/journalists/reporters will do whatever they have to do in order to get the promotion onto the bigger stage.

I jump around and see what different outlets say. Sometimes it is CNN. Sometimes ABC. Washington Post. NY Times. LA Times. Chi Tribune. Only on occasion do I drop by Fox. I even like going to the BBC or Jerusalem Post.
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Zero2Cool
7 years ago
If I can't read/hear the question asked and answer, it's dismissed.
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PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago
I've never been a person who watches fox new even though I agree with most of what they air. I've always looked at liberal, media primarily national broadcasts and CNN. I get a little talk radio on my commutes when the sports talk is boring. I know what I believe and don't need to watch channels or shows that agree with me, I'd rather look at different views so when I am done and I still have the same views it just tells me that what I believe is right.

Since Trump has been elected and probably during the end of the election cycle that has been almost unbearable, because they are no longer talking about policy, they are just on a personal attack of Trump. It looks like Democrats don't plan on campaigning on any policy but simply character attacks. Late night shows while they have been getting worse for a while jumped on completely, Can't even watch TV after the 9:00cst shows unless I find an old rerun of Married With Children or something.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
Porforis
7 years ago

If I can't read/hear the question asked and answer, it's dismissed.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



So basically, you like sources to be cited and for said sources to be verifiable.
Zero2Cool
7 years ago

So basically, you like sources to be cited and for said sources to be verifiable.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



Yes. I have trust issues, I know. 🙂 I've had a strong disdain towards media for over a decade, at least. There are a very few writers that I trust. When it comes to the Packers, Jason Wilde is one of them. He's not a fan of the Packers and has little to no emotional ties to the team, which leaves him to be somewhat objective at times, more than others. He's not writing for shock, he's writing to tell you a story, and a story as full as he can. I'm starting to like Michael Cohen too. I had begun to like Ty Dunne, then the jerk went back to Buffalo. Selfish jerk!!!
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Cheesey
7 years ago
What makes me laugh is the attack on Trump about past sexual misconduct (before he came into office).
The democrats cry and scream about how terrible Trump is.......when Bill Clinton was in office, and we spoke of his "horniness", how he abused women, all I heard was "THATS HIS PERSONAL LIFE, HIS OWN BUSINESS! NOTHING TO DO ABOUT HIS PRESIDENCY!!!"
Ironic, isn't it??? And Bill was actually doing it while he was in office!
Hypocrisy, at it's finest.
Now....just so I'm clear, I am against ALL sexual misconduct, no matter WHO is doing it. I just wish it was treated equally, going after ALL that choose to use their office (job, or whatever) to abuse their power.
NAIL ALL OF THEM TO THE WALL!!!
Just make sure they are guilty. Just because someone says they did it, make sure there is enough actual proof. You can bet there are women that use that card to get what they want.
Money, power, whatever.
I don't trust ANY media. They all are out for their own good.
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7 years ago
When I first saw this chart last year it made me laugh. Since my daughter in law posted it, for the sake of family harmony, I didn't say anything.
Where's CBS?
I question the placement on the left to right bias scale for most of the ones that are on the "neutral" scale.
I have seen some neat invention idea videos on the Wolfe sight. They may not be practical today but one day maybe they will.
MSNBC is considered "analytical"? I didn't realize that.
In the larger cities I have seen conservative newspapers in more or less liberal towns and liberal papers in conservative towns.


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I have seen other ones that show Fox closer to the center line rating than several of the other media outlets.



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Here is version 3.0 Fox took a bigger beating but CBS at least made the cut. ABC and NBC slid to the left a little.
My dad loved to read Newsweek. He would be disappointed that Time made the list but not his beloved Newsweek. I kinda favored US News and World Report once upon a time.
And finally- Enquirer is considered a conservative magazine?? Really? Why? Inquiring minds want to know.


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7 years ago
I saw this one when looking for the other charts. It makes me laugh.


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