KRK
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7 years ago
The Tampa offense is bottom third and still got 400 yards with two banged up offensive linemen. The boys are inept and ill-prepared for wide receiver screens (and other screens for that matter.)
The fish rots from the head down, and while I think Mike McCarthy has done a passable job with the offense (although the 3rd and one wide receiver screen was a crappy call) he owns DC. If you arent part of the solution, you are part of the problem....
In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK
Zero2Cool
7 years ago
The defense does really well and then the offense puts them back on the field. You can't make adjustments when you're right back onto the field after your offense goes three an out three times in a row. The defense can do better, but they need the offense to at least sustain drives. There are not many defenses out there that can dominate with what this offense is doing.

I'm not advocating we should keep Dom Capers, I wouldn't be upset if he were let go and his entire defensive staff.

It's just not hard to understand that if your offense goes three and out or can't even stay on the field for more than 90 seconds that your defense is going to suffer. You don't get your stamina back and adjustments made if you're thrown right back onto the field.


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warhawk
7 years ago
Teams are going to throw the WR bubble screens and HB screens until our guys figure out a way to stop it. Winston must have thrown several passes that never went beyond the LOS that gained well over 100 yards.
The wr bubble to our defenses right side is awful and the HB screen to our left has probably averaged 25 yards every time a team throws it.
What should be a low risk, low reward play is not turning out that way. All teams have these plays in their playbook. If the defense makes stops they will quit calling it but if not they will just keep going to it like yesterday.
Like I say we are going to keep seeing these bubble screens until our DB's start getting off blocks and stuffing them. It's aggravating to see a simple pitch and catch result in a positive gain that often. I'm not sure this is even a coaching issue and belongs in this thread but it needs to get better.
"The train is leaving the station."
PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago
wish people would make up their minds. One breath the talent on defense sucks because Ted can't draft. Well if the talent sucks, is there anything Dom can really do?
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
Cheesey
7 years ago
At least they put some pressure on the QB yesterday. That was nice to FINALLY see.
Heck, we WON in overtime, and that was what counts!
With our QB situation right now, that makes me happy.
And Mike McCarthy had some great play calls in the overtime! Don't forget that!
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Zero2Cool
7 years ago

wish people would make up their minds. One breath the talent on defense sucks because Ted can't draft. Well if the talent sucks, is there anything Dom can really do?

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



What would be great is Dom Capers gets a Head Coach job (or whatever, he's gone) somewhere else and his replacement gets the Packers in top 5 in yards and points. I would like to read the comments about that. Of course, they'd probably just bark "I told you Dom was the problem" and completely omit the "no players on defense" mantra.
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buckeyepackfan
7 years ago
I guess wins really don't matter

The defense gives up 20 points, over half of the defenses in the league gave up 20 or more points yesterday.

The defense had 7 sacks, more than any other team in the league yesterday.

The defense scored 6 points.
Not many defenses scored 6 yesterday.

Oh but the defense gave up over 400yds.

Well that looks bad until you realize they were on the field for almost 40 minutes.
BTW who gives a fuck how many yards the defense gives up?
IT'S THE DAMN POINTS THAT COUNT!

Can't This bullshit about Dom and Mike and Ted need to go wait till after the season?

They aren't going anywhere until then.

Jesus you want to bitch about things you have no control over, go to FB click on ANY article about The Packers and join in with The 1000's haters who will gladly join you in bashing The Packers!

Sorry about the rant, but this forum is better than that!




I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!
uffda udfa
7 years ago
A forum must provide context for integrity. Why did we have those sacks? 2 OL out for Tampa a factor? Jameis back after multi game absence after having a poor season before that a factor? Doug Martin out and Desean hurting a factor?

Hundley with 54 passing yards a winning performance? D giving up over 400 to a sputtering O say anything?

Context...context... context.

If we beat Cleveland, and have 10 sacks is our D SB worthy all of a sudden? Context. It would be the Browns. You would be spinning it into so much more than it should be completely out of context causing confusion and disappointment when playing legit teams. Don't create false expectations based on seeing something good vs crappy competition. Badgers fans made that mistake.
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Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


Zero2Cool
7 years ago

A forum must provide context for integrity. Why did we have those sacks? 2 OL out for Tampa a factor? Jameis back after multi game absence after having a poor season before that a factor? Doug Martin out and Desean hurting a factor?

Hundley with 54 passing yards a winning performance? D giving up over 400 to a sputtering O say anything?

Context...context... context.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



I expect context in your posts from now on.
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beast
7 years ago
You can't stop everything... Capers just has to take the limited talent he has healthy and pick his poison...

He choose to try not to let the talented WR beat them deep, which opens up stuff underneath... congrats, Bucs took advantage of it. Packers defense gave up 20 points, but they also got 7, so a net of 13 points. That's not bad.

What's kind of scary is that that on the Packers touchdown drives, the WRs did NOT touch the ball even once... in fact only two passes were attempted, and the only one completed with to the RB.

It'll be interesting to see how Hundley does in Cleveland... if he does well in two road games, then maybe he just can't pass in Lambeau for some reason.
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Zero2Cool (1h) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.
beast (1h) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue
Zero2Cool (2h) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's
Zero2Cool (2h) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.
packerfanoutwest (2h) : ok I stand corrected
Zero2Cool (2h) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th
Zero2Cool (2h) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?
beast (2h) : Saying no to the 6th lock.
beast (2h) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out
Zero2Cool (2h) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.
beast (2h) : But it doesn't matter, as the Packers win surely win one of their remaining games
beast (2h) : This is not complex, just someone doesn't want to believe reality
beast (2h) : We already have told you... if Packers lose all their games (they won't, but if they did), and Buccaneers and Falcons win all theirs
Zero2Cool (2h) : I posted it in that Packers and 1 seed thread
Zero2Cool (2h) : I literally just said it.
packerfanoutwest (2h) : show us a scenario where Pack don't get in? bet you can't
Zero2Cool (2h) : Falcons, Buccaneers would need to win final two games.
Zero2Cool (2h) : Yes, if they win one of three, they are lock. If they lose out, they can be eliminated.
packerfanoutwest (2h) : as I just said,,gtheyh are in no matter what
Zero2Cool (2h) : Packers should get in. I just hope it's not 7th seed. Feels dirty.
packerfanoutwest (3h) : If packers lose out, no matter what, they are in
packerfanoutwest (3h) : both teams can not male the playoffs....falcon hold the tie breaker
packerfanoutwest (3h) : if bucs win out they win their division
beast (3h) : Fine, Buccaneers and Falcons can get ahead of us
packerfanoutwest (3h) : falcons are already ahead of us
beast (3h) : Packers will get in
beast (3h) : If Packers lose the rest of their games and Falcons win the rest of theirs, they could pass us... but not gonna happen
packerfanoutwest (3h) : they still are in the playoffs
packerfanoutwest (3h) : If Packers lose the remaining games,,,,at 10-7
Zero2Cool (5h) : We can say it. We don't play.
Mucky Tundra (6h) : But to say they are in is looking past the Saints
Mucky Tundra (6h) : That said, their odds are very favorable with a >99% chance of making the playoffs entering this week's games
Mucky Tundra (6h) : Packers are not in and have not clinched a playoff spot.
buckeyepackfan (7h) : Packers are in, they need to keep winning to improve their seed#.
Mucky Tundra (16h) : Getting help would have been nice, but helping ourselves should always be the plan
beast (16h) : Too bad Seahawks couldn't beat Vikings
bboystyle (16h) : We just need to win Monday night and were in
Mucky Tundra (19h) : Or ties, but let's be real here
Mucky Tundra (19h) : Other scenario was Falcons+Rams losses
Mucky Tundra (19h) : Needed a Falcons loss for a Seahawk loss to clinch
buckeyepackfan (20h) : Am I wring in saying if Tge Vikings beat The Seahawks, The Packers clinch?
Mucky Tundra (21-Dec) : Agreed; you stinks
Zero2Cool (21-Dec) : I'm not beating anyone. I stinks.
Mucky Tundra (21-Dec) : rough injury for tank dell. guy can't catch abreak
beast (21-Dec) : So far the college playoffs have sucked... One team absolutely dominates the other
beast (21-Dec) : Well even if you weren't positive towards a guy, you wouldn't nessarily want to tell the media that (if they don't know about it)
Martha Careful (21-Dec) : I think MLF want Love to look past the end half issues, and feel good about his play. Our coaches generally keep a very positive tone.
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