Final Cuts to Haunt Packers?· Page 3

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

7 years ago

What? You are not buying into the bit about Mikey being such a great QB genius? I mean look how he created Aaron Rogers from linebacker spare parts in his basement on Tuesday afternoons!

Originally Posted by: wpr

What helped McCarthy with QB's was the QB school that's basically nothing now because of the CBA restrictions.

In one of those careful what you ask for thoughts, I kinda wanna see Rodgers with a different Packers HC just to see how the new OC/HC use him.

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

7 years ago

#22

What? You are not buying into the bit about Mikey being such a great QB genius? I mean look how he created Aaron Rogers from linebacker spare parts in his basement on Tuesday afternoons!

Originally Posted by: wpr

Hell I forgot Aaron walked off the campus of Cal and onto Lambeau field as the GOAT, oh except of course for Tom Brady .

Shame Mike wasted those 1st 3 years of his career.

I bet Aaron was pissed to watch Alex Smith's career just take off and flourish under 3 different Head Coaches and 5 different OC's his first 5 years .
Funny how, Smith seems to be pretty Damn good since he has been with Andy Reid the last what 5 years
Why the hell did Ted Thompson hire Mike when he could have had Andy Reid?

Wait he couldn't because Reid was with The Eagles going to the playoffs year after year.

Eagle fans have to be happy that Reid was finally fired 5 years ago and they might just might finally make the playoffs again.

I have to agree this has been nothing but 11 years of total fuck ups by Ted Thompson and Mike.

This bullshit of playing winning football and not making The Super Bowl every year has to stop.

I say The Packers trade GM, Coaching Staff, and throw in The training staff straight up to The Brown's for theirs.

Everybody will be happy here at Packershome.

The 3 major problems will be gone and The Packers can start going to The SB every year!

I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!

uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

7 years ago

#23

Alex Smith became a force only after Mahomes was drafted to be his replacement. Being with Andy Reid or Harbaugh did nothing for him. Never seen anything like the Alex Smith situation. Was mediocre until Pat Mahomes made him look over his shoulder. Going to guess he goes right back to being Alex Smith if he's done in KC after this season.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

Cheesey
Preferred Member

7 years ago

#24

Didn't say Hill was a savior, just that he played better.
And Hundley did ok? Sure....I guess we were watching a different Hundley.

I hope he proves me wrong, but I don't think he will.

beast
Select Member

7 years ago

#25

Didn't say Hill was a savior, just that he played better.
And Hundley did ok? Sure....I guess we were watching a different Hundley.

I hope he proves me wrong, but I don't think he will.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey

Yeah Hill did better... but that seemed to be because the 4th string guys couldn't keep up with his running speed, and a 4th string guy would blow a coverage sooner or later and someone would be wide open.

Porforis
Veteran Member

7 years ago

#26

So Hill was going to be the savior this year.
Another Ted Thompson fuck up.
This whole thread is laughable.

Go to any article on FB and read the comments , everybody is an expert.
Laughable

There's only 1 member of this forum who is happy today.
Laughable.
So let's go ahead and crown Philly, Vikes, Saints and Rams.
Surely after 8 weeks the races care over a
Nothing is going to change !
Laughable!
Hook, line and sinker!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan

Every time I bring up certain people suggesting we trade Rodgers, start Huntley for an instant super bowl people get cranky but it still makes me laugh. As with everything else and with ALL of us (including me, despite my hard work to avoid it) oversimplifying absolutely everything, we always want someone to blame. The fact is, it's a massive assortment of mistakes, poor performances, random bad bounces, all outweighing a wide assortment of good to great moves that's to blame for where this team is where it's at right now.

Nonstopdrivel
Preferred Member

7 years ago

#27

Look at the bright side: If the Packers trade away Rodgers, not only will they get some awesome draft picks in the immediate future, but Green Bay will be reeling in high draft picks every season for the foreseeable future too. It's win-win!

wpr
Preferred Member

7 years ago

#28

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan

What the hell are you talking about boy? You're rambling on in some kind of incoherent manner. Take a couple of breaths and relax.

Let me draw it out a little for you. Mike has done fine with Aaron. But people who are busy kissing Mike's but fail to factor in that Aaron is a rare and unique player. He would have succeed with a lot of HCs not just Mike and Mike alone. He growth and development would have been a lot different if he was tossed into the starting job in week 3 of his first season. His growth and development wold have been different if he had 3 or 4 HC in his first 5 or 6 years.

Mike did fine with helping Aaron develop but he is not a QB genius. Other QBs who played for McCarthy are/were:
Favre, He doesn't count because he was already starting QB and successful when McCarthy showed up as HC.

Flynn, Harrell, Hundley, Martin, Nall, Tolzien and Wallace. Which one of these players blossomed under the tutelage of McCarthy? Which one had a half way decent career? Which one became a starter after leaving GB?

McCarthy has been fortuitous. He coached Favre as QB coach in 99 and later as HC. And now he has Rodgers. He didn't light up the world as QB coach in KC or as OC in NO or SF. As I said he is a decent coach but he is not some genius that has QBs lining up to listen to him talk.

Nonstopdrivel
Preferred Member

7 years ago

#29

McCarthy has been fortuitous.

Originally Posted by: wpr

That he's had the opportunity to work with Favre and Rodgers is fortuitous. McCarthy himself has been fortunate. 😝

*takes pedant hat off*

uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

7 years ago

#30

MM was coordinating the 32nd ranked O when we hired him, and preferred Smith to Rodgers.

Ever wonder where we'd be right now had we traded Hundley? Hill would still be here. We cut Hill and Callahan but somebody wanted Hill enough to stick him on their 53 while nobody wanted to put Callahan on theirs.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

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dfosterf (1h) : Nobody coming up with a keep, but at x amount

dfosterf (1h) : Trade, cut or keep

dfosterf (2h) : that from Jaire

dfosterf (2h) : My guess is the Packers floated the concept of a reworked contract via his agent and agent got a f'

Zero2Cool (2h) : Yes, and that is why I think Rob worded it how he did. Rather than say "agent"

dfosterf (3h) : Same laws apply. Agent must present such an offer to Jaire. Cannot accept or reject without presenting it

Zero2Cool (3h) : I'm thinking that is why Rob worded it how he did.

dfosterf (3h) : The Packers can certainly still make the offer to the agent

dfosterf (3h) : Laws of agency and definition of fiduciary responsibility

dfosterf (3h) : Jaire is open to a reduced contract without Jaire's permission

dfosterf (3h) : The agent would arguably violate the law if he were to tell the Packers

Zero2Cool (3h) : That someone ... likely the agent.

Zero2Cool (3h) : So, Jaire has not been offered nor rejected a pay reduction, but someone says he'd decline.

Zero2Cool (3h) : Demovksy says t was direct communication with someone familiar with Jaire’s line of thinking at that moment.

Zero2Cool (3h) : Demovsky just replied to me a bit ago. Jaire hasn't said it.

dfosterf (5h) : Of course, that depends on the definition of "we"

dfosterf (5h) : We have been told that they haven't because he wouldn't accept it. I submit we don't know that

dfosterf (5h) : What is the downside in making a calculated reduced offer to Jaire?

Zero2Cool (21h) : Packers are receiving interest in Jaire Alexander but a trade is not imminent

Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Jalen Ramsey wants to be traded. He's never happy is he?

Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : two 1sts in 2022 and two 2nd's in 2023 and 2024

Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Packers had fortunate last three drafts.

dfosterf (15-Apr) : I may have to move

dfosterf (15-Apr) : My wife just told the ancient Japanese sushi dude not enough rice under his fish

Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : I think a dozen is what I need

dfosterf (14-Apr) : Go fund me for this purpose just might work. A dozen nurses show up at 1265 to provide mental health assistance.

dfosterf (14-Apr) : Maybe send a crew of Angels to the Packers draft room on draft day.

Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : I am the Angel that gets visited.

dfosterf (14-Apr) : Visiting Angels has a pretty good reputation

Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : what

Martha Careful (14-Apr) : WINNING IT, not someone else losing it. The best victory though was re-uniting with his wife

Martha Careful (14-Apr) : The manner in which he won it was just amazing and wonderful. First blowing the lead then getting back, then blowing it. But ultimately

Zero2Cool (12-Apr) : I'm guessing since the thumb was broken, he wasn't feeling it.

dfosterf (10-Apr) : Looking for guidance. Not feeling the thumb.

Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : If they knew about it or not

Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : I don't recall that he did which is why I asked.

Zero2Cool (10-Apr) : Guessing they probably knew. Did he have cast or something on?

Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : Did they know that at the time or was that something the realized afterwards?

Zero2Cool (9-Apr) : Van Ness played most of season with broken thumb

wpr (9-Apr) : yay

Zero2Cool (9-Apr) : Mark Murphy says Steelers likely to protect Packers game. Meaning, no Ireland

Zero2Cool (8-Apr) : Struggling to figure out what text editor options are needed and which are 'nice to have'

Mucky Tundra (8-Apr) : *CHOMP CHOMP CHOMP*

Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : WR who said he'd break Xavier Worthy 40 time...and ran slower than you

Mucky Tundra (2-Apr) : Who?

Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : Texas’ WR Isaiah Bond is scheduled to visit the Bills, Browns, Chiefs, Falcons, Packers and Titans starting next week.

Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : Spotting ball isn't changing, only measuring distance is, Which wasn't the issue.

Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : The spotting of the ball IS the issue. Not the chain gang.

Mucky Tundra (2-Apr) : Will there be a tracker on the ball or something?

Zero2Cool (1-Apr) : uh oh

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