Cheesey
7 years ago
When Matt Flynn came into a game, he didn't suck. He damn near beat the Patriots.
Under 100 yards passing won't win you many games. Unless you have a killer defense....which we don't.
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7 years ago

You mean the Brett Hundley that so many Packer fans thought should be traded for a first round draft pick? That Brett Hundley?

Originally Posted by: sschind 



That wouldn't have been me. I steadfast insisted that preseason games against 2nd and 3rd string teams using vanilla defenses don't mean a thing. If GB were to find a trading partner they wouldn't get more than a low round conditional pick.

I fail to understand how fans can consistently over value the players on their team. I did when I was young but I got over it quick.
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7 years ago

THe question I have about Hundley is his accuracy from mid-to deep range. But was this a function of not being in sync with these guys, not being up to normal game speed, or just innaccuracy?

We need to let him sync up and get up to speed. Only then will we know if he's just missing guys.

That deep INT looked to me more like a miscommunication than anything.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Calling that int "miscommunication" is being more than generous. If you want to slant your perception towards Hundley go ahead. He took the snap dropped back and heaved it as far as a he could without once checking to see where Bennett was. He had no idea if Bennett was going to be there or not. While Bennett did slow up and look back when he got to the 50, the ball was 5 yards over his head when Vaccaro made the catch in full stride reaching out as far as he could. No way Bennett ever makes that catch even 10 years ago.

At best Hundley was hoping against hope for PI not a completion.

So you know, I am not mad at Hundley, Mikey or the defense. The moment Aaron went down the Packer season ended. I don't get mad or yell at the tv when a play goes awry. That's the new reality for GB. In 1/1000th of a second they went from a SB contender to the Cleveland Browns in drag.

I didn't get home until halftime so I didn't see the first half of the game. It's still on my dvr. Maybe I will watch it if there is nothing else on tv.
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beast
7 years ago

THe question I have about Hundley is his accuracy from mid-to deep range. But was this a function of not being in sync with these guys, not being up to normal game speed, or just innaccuracy?

We need to let him sync up and get up to speed. Only then will we know if he's just missing guys.

That deep INT looked to me more like a miscommunication than anything.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 


I agree, but my concern is that I didn't notice a single on target deep pass all night, and the WRs broke up a couple of interceptions where the ball looked like it was going more towards the defender than the WR.

I'm not saying there isn't potential hope, I just saw no sign of it in that game. I kept thinking their would be at least two deep passes that gave hope he could put it in a good spot for a WR... And it just didn't come.
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Porforis
7 years ago
As much as I realize the Packers are in serious trouble right now, the talk comparing them to the Browns is ridiculous. Even if Huntley keeps playing the way he is.
isocleas2
7 years ago
Good coaches shoulder the blame rather than throwing the young guy under the bus. That's what McCarthy is doing here, taking one on the chin rather than state the obvious: Hundley didn't deliver.


gotarace
7 years ago
I would like to know when the quarterback Whisperer Mike McCarthy comes into the hot seat. Three years invested...developing...planning.... coaching Hundley and this is all the quarterback Guru can come up with? It looked like a shit show Sunday and Mike McCarthy did nothing to help the young gun out. I guess it is easy to look like a QB god when you're coaching Aaron Rodgers not a mere mortal in the position.
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PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago

I would like to know when the quarterback Whisperer Mike McCarthy comes into the hot seat. Three years invested...developing...planning.... coaching Hundley and this is all the quarterback Guru can come up with? It looked like a shit show Sunday and Mike McCarthy did nothing to help the young gun out. I guess it is easy to look like a QB god when you're coaching Aaron Rodgers not a mere mortal in the position.

Originally Posted by: gotarace 



I think Clements had much more to do with Rodgers development than McCarthy.
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DoddPower
7 years ago

As much as I realize the Packers are in serious trouble right now, the talk comparing them to the Browns is ridiculous. Even if Huntley keeps playing the way he is.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



Why would you say this? What if they continue to look the way they have since Hundley has been playing and don't win another game? At that point, differentiating between the Packers and the Browns in just splitting hairs. Let's hope that doesn't happen.
Porforis
7 years ago

Why would you say this? What if they continue to look the way they have since Hundley has been playing and don't win another game? At that point, differentiating between the Packers and the Browns in just splitting hairs. Let's hope that doesn't happen.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



The Browns are 0-7, averaging 14.7 points/game scored and 24.1 points/game allowed
In 2016 the Browns were 1-15 with 16.5 points/game scored and 25.3 points/game allowed.

The Packers lost the last game by a score of 26-17. This is 2.3 points scored over the Brown's average scored this season and 1.9 points allowed over the Brown's average this season. With a sample size of one, the Packers are outperforming the Browns with possibly the worst performance this team has put up this century. This is status quo for the Browns.

The only possible way you can say that the Packers will be as bad as the Browns is if you expect this exact same performance from the entire team (not just Huntley) for the rest of the year, and for this to carry into subsequent seasons under the hypothetical scenario where Huntley stayed starter the entire time and into next season. I don't feel like I should need to explain any further why this hypothetical is ludicrous and even if nothing changed on the roster or coaching staff and we continued to play like we did last week, how the Packers would outperform the Browns in every meaningful metric.
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