Zero2Cool
7 years ago
I don't know about you, but I am ALL-IN with Brett Hundley. We either WIN with him, or LOSE with him. All I ask, ... let the god damn QB play the mother trucking game how it's supposed to be played!! You need to call the game to WIN the game, not call the game hoping to not LOSE the game.


Mike McCarthy’s support for Brett Hundley as Aaron Rodgers' stand-in was so emphatic that you thought the Green Bay Packers coach would turn his quarterback loose in his first NFL start Sunday against the Saints.

Instead, he never gave him much of a chance.

McCarthy’s ultra-conservative, run-heavy game plan and play calling in Sunday’s 26-17 loss to the New Orleans Saints offered few answers about whether Hundley can keep the Packers in the NFC North race until Rodgers can possibly return from his broken right clavicle.

“It was a challenge that I didn’t meet today,” McCarthy said. “He didn’t get comfortable in the pocket, and that’s my responsibility. So I did a poor job coaching.’

“Our passing game, we can sit here and pick it apart all we want,” McCarthy added. “Let’s just blame it on the head coach today.

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No worries, we are blaming our highly successful coach who was completely out coached yesterday. That's right, you out-coached your own damn self!!!
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nerdmann
7 years ago

I don't know about you, but I am ALL-IN with Brett Hundley. We either WIN with him, or LOSE with him. All I ask, ... let the god damn QB play the mother trucking game how it's supposed to be played!! You need to call the game to WIN the game, not call the game hoping to not LOSE the game.




No worries, we are blaming our highly successful coach who was completely out coached yesterday. That's right, you out-coached your own damn self!!!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Lotta football left.
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PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago
To a point yes, but do need to also keep him from trying to do more than he is ready for.

to really help him, get him out from shotgun. The way Jones is running, get Hundley under center, so the play action can be at its most effective.
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Cheesey
7 years ago
After the AWFUL showing yesterday, I don't see anything positive from Hundley, other then the TD run.
He can't hit a guy when he's open. By the time he throws the ball, whoever MIGHT be open, is no longer so.
Maybe they should go out and sign Matt Flynn. He can't be any worse then Hundley has been.
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warhawk
7 years ago

After the AWFUL showing yesterday, I don't see anything positive from Hundley, other then the TD run.
He can't hit a guy when he's open. By the time he throws the ball, whoever MIGHT be open, is no longer so.
Maybe they should go out and sign Matt Flynn. He can't be any worse then Hundley has been.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



How about we just give the guy a minute? They talk about the speed of the game and I would think where that may factor in the most would be at QB when he's asked to let it go, accurately, to the right guy, in under 3 seconds.
I put some of this on McCarthy because he didn't give Hundley a plan that allowed the guy to get into any kind of a flow and with the running game moving the ball that was a blown opportunity. He had play action sitting in his lap and didn't capitalize.
Mike McCarthy needs to cut the kid loose and let him roll. He will either grasp on to that and build his confidence or it won't but at least he won't be tied down playing afraid to make a mistake. This game was frustrating. It was like eating a snickers bar in hot car. Started out fine but by the end it was all a big mess.

At least go down swinging.





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nerdmann
7 years ago

How about we just give the guy a minute? They talk about the speed of the game and I would think where that may factor in the most would be at QB when he's asked to let it go, accurately, to the right guy, in under 3 seconds.
I put some of this on McCarthy because he didn't give Hundley a plan that allowed the guy to get into any kind of a flow and with the running game moving the ball that was a blown opportunity. He had play action sitting in his lap and didn't capitalize.

Mike McCarthy needs to cut the kid loose and let him roll. He will either grasp on to that and build his confidence or it won't but at least he won't be tied down playing afraid to make a mistake. This game was frustrating. It was like eating a snickers bar in hot car. Started out fine but by the end it was all a big mess.

At least go down swinging.




Originally Posted by: warhawk 



You gotta let the kid make some mistakes. He will throw a pick or two, before he gets up to game speed. But until he gets up to speed, you don't know what you've got.


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Porforis
7 years ago

You gotta let the kid make some mistakes. He will throw a pick or two, before he gets up to game speed. But until he gets up to speed, you don't know what you've got.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



This. And if he gets shellshocked from throwing a couple picks and gets worse instead of learning from it and overcoming, he's never going to have success in the NFL anyways. Let him loose, give him a couple games, let him make or break his own destiny. What's the worst that could happen - we lose two more games? Is ANYBODY confident we'll win either of the next two if we DON'T throw the ball downfield?
beast
7 years ago

Packers completely failed to get the outside WRs involved.

And while Mike McCarthy is trying to take all the blame, I'm not sure a saw a good deep pass come from Hundley, as the ball normally went more towards the DBs than the deep WR. The Packers WRs even broke up a couple of INTs.
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sschind
7 years ago

After the AWFUL showing yesterday, I don't see anything positive from Hundley, other then the TD run.
He can't hit a guy when he's open. By the time he throws the ball, whoever MIGHT be open, is no longer so.
Maybe they should go out and sign Matt Flynn. He can't be any worse then Hundley has been.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



You mean the Brett Hundley that so many Packer fans thought should be traded for a first round draft pick? That Brett Hundley?
nerdmann
7 years ago

Packers completely failed to get the outside WRs involved.

And while Mike McCarthy is trying to take all the blame, I'm not sure a saw a good deep pass come from Hundley, as the ball normally went more towards the DBs than the deep WR. The Packers WRs even broke up a couple of INTs.

Originally Posted by: beast 



THe question I have about Hundley is his accuracy from mid-to deep range. But was this a function of not being in sync with these guys, not being up to normal game speed, or just innaccuracy?

We need to let him sync up and get up to speed. Only then will we know if he's just missing guys.

That deep INT looked to me more like a miscommunication than anything.
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