gbguy20
7 years ago

Like all to many , Offense is your one and only area of focus . Also in the spirit of the thread , you have not even graded that 1/3 rd of the total Packers team .

Originally Posted by: Smokey 



This is a forum of discussion. The posts in your thread made me think of this so i posted it. Conversations naturally branch off and then come back. If you don't like it maybe forums arent for you, try reading an article or something instead. Either way, shut up.
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Smokey
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7 years ago
Getting defensive over a simple statement of fact is not necessary. Discussion is greatly appreciated , yet being rude is just not called for . If grading the Packers is not your bag , just say so. [cheers]

Averaging my grades for all 3 of the Packers team disciplines , I gave the overall grade of B- .
My evaluation takes into account injuries as well as the general fact that most teams do get better as their season moves forward .

At this time I am most concerned about the CB's on the Defense and the Right/Left Offensive Tackles . Injuries and back-ups for Starters has revealed a certain lack of depth and challenged some players to step up and earn their paychecks . In addition , the GM has been more active this season in the FA market looking for replacement players .

By mid-season I hope to be able to raise my grades upward in direct proportion to an improved Packer team . I expect to see better QB / WR timing , a better O-line with the return of all #1 O-line Starters , and I hope to see a healthy (CB) in House return to full duty as (CB) King is turning knowledgeable heads across the league . Also I hope that (RB) Aaron Jones is stepping up beyond all of our original expectations . [thumbup]

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Zero2Cool
7 years ago
Aaron Rodgers C+
Ty Montgomery C
Jordy Nelson B-
Davante Adams D+
Randall Cobb C
Aaron Ripkowski F
Martellus Bennett F
Lance Kendricks D+

Corey Linsley C+
Jahri Evans D
Lane Taylor C-
David Bakhtiari B
other RT's F

Morgan Burnett B-
other CB's F
Josh Jones C
other S's F

Kenny Clark C-
other DL F

Blake Martinez B
Clay Matthews B
Nick Perry B-
other LB's F




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Smokey
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7 years ago
Wow Zero , I see more in your post just grades . Your dislike of FB's is as apparent as your approval of three LB's . Names with just grades and no explanations . I suppose that one could research and read all of your past post , but most will not do that . Your micro view is in stark contrast to my macro view .

If you can find the time to expand upon your evaluations , it might be easier to understand the grades you've attached to players .

Do you have an overall grade for the first quarter of the Packer's season ?

[cheers]

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DarkaneRules
7 years ago
My grade is 3-1
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DoddPower
7 years ago

This is a forum of discussion. The posts in your thread made me think of this so i posted it. Conversations naturally branch off and then come back. If you don't like it maybe forums arent for you, try reading an article or something instead. Either way, shut up.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



Great advice for Smokey!

isocleas2
7 years ago
I gotta agree with Smokey on this one, for how banged up the Packers are they're 3-1 and look as good as anyone in the NFC. Pretty harsh grades considering.

Edit: I'd give the Offense a B- or B and the defense a B+ or A-
Zero2Cool
7 years ago

Wow Zero , I see more in your post just grades . Your dislike of FB's is as apparent as your approval of three LB's . Names with just grades and no explanations . I suppose that one could research and read all of your past post , but most will not do that . Your micro view is in stark contrast to my macro view .

If you can find the time to expand upon your evaluations , it might be easier to understand the grades you've attached to players .

Do you have an overall grade for the first quarter of the Packer's season ?

[cheers]

Originally Posted by: Smokey 



We can start threads, topics, what have you, but we cannot, and should not, try to narrow the evolution and morphing of said thread. That's one of the amazing things about a discussion forum. I'm also the pot calling the kettle black here and I'm fully aware of it. e.g. when I ask for game by game early predictions, I'm wanting game by game break down W/L not some pansy 11-5 post and ditch.

I looked at ProFootballFocus for my grades and raised/lowered them as I saw fit.

Speaking of evolution and morphing topics. You asked for grades, I provided player by player grades and you took my FB grade as I dislike FB's. Where did I say that? I gave a grade, thus, I dislike them? See, now we have another discussion.

You're more tight on staying inherently on to the exact topic than I am!! (btw, that's not really a good thing, lol)
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Smokey
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7 years ago
As I recall from some of your past postings , you don't like Ripkowski and never liked John Kuhn either . That was one point from the past that I recall that you (Zero) have posted on . A fact , not a way for me to step up and knock that chip off of your shoulder .

I offered some support for the grades that I offered . You get defensive like someone that has lost at marriage and transferred that hurt into being over defensive when anyone challenges you to expand or support your case . Calling names like "pansy" and looking for a way to throw mud is taking the low road , rather than offering a more pleasant reply . Some , like my father , would send all in the house , off in any direction just to not be in the same room when he was angry . So if you intend to call names , and get defensive when questioned or your position is not supported , stop and consider that narrowing a morphing topic can sharpen the focus of a picture to better see the true picture .

I'd like to read why you graded as you did , but you can look for sinister ulterior motives if that is your mood .

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Zero2Cool
7 years ago

As I recall from some of your past postings , you don't like Ripkowski and never liked John Kuhn either . That was one point from the past that I recall that you (Zero) have posted on . A fact , not a way for me to step up and knock that chip off of your shoulder .

I offered some support for the grades that I offered . You get defensive like someone that has lost at marriage and transferred that hurt into being over defensive when anyone challenges you to expand or support your case . Calling names like "pansy" and looking for a way to throw mud is taking the low road , rather than offering a more pleasant reply . Some , like my father , would send all in the house , off in any direction just to not be in the same room when he was angry . So if you intend to call names , and get defensive when questioned or your position is not supported , stop and consider that narrowing a morphing topic can sharpen the focus of a picture to better see the true picture .

I'd like to read why you graded as you did , but you can look for sinister ulterior motives if that is your mood .

Originally Posted by: Smokey 



I give your post an F for effort and F for accuracy, but you get an A for imagination/creativity.
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