DoddPower
7 years ago

I am sure you have seen me criticize the guy on many occasions. That said I don't need "Great" from any one player including Randall. It would be nice if the 1st round pick was great but it doesn't happen all that often.

Give me "solid" and I am happy. Randall has had a few , very few flashes of solid. That's what frustrates me. Give me a guy who covers his man nearly every time. (It's impossible to cover all the time every game, every down.) A guy who consistently tackles in the open field. A guy who is able to step up and help others when they mess up in coverage.

I would prefer Randall sitting on the bench instead of trading him. There is so little depth when the injuries come rolling in GB needs him. Some pick in next year's draft won't do them any good this year. Like in the olden days when MLB teams traded a player for cash. The saying was that managers hated it when the GM made the trade because you cant't play a bag of money at second base.

So all in all I expect Coach Mike to back his guy. He took him out of the game (Or more likely Whitt did), He scolded him. He had a talk with him and not welcomes him back and protects him against nay sayers.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



I just think it's inevitable that this guy will go the way of Datone Jones and likely contribute even less to the Packers when it's all said and done. The Packers have and could have gotten more value out of Gunter, and various other UDFAs, for example. Holding out hope that Randall is going to develop is wishful thinking, imo. I don't think he has "it" to be "great" or even "good." The attitude to be "great" doesn't necessarily mean a player will ever be great. But it's often necessary to even be "good" or "solid." Randall seems a little arrogant and cocky, and not in the good ways. He'll be forgotten as another disappointment soon enough. Can't happen soon enough for me.

Zero2Cool
7 years ago
The lack of Damarious Randall EARNING a starting position just makes me repeat what I've said over and over again. TRADE OUR 1ST ROUND PICK's!! Collect extra 2nd and 3rd round's since we just seem to suck donkeys at 1st round selections.

2017 we did that and people freaked out because OMG TJ Watt!!

I still say, trade away!
UserPostedImage
Barfarn
7 years ago

Eh, I don't see anything about Randall that makes me think he will be great. I don't just mean overreacting to getting benched. I'm mostly talking about the attitude and dedication that it takes to become great. Day after day. I don't think Randall has that in him He's destined to be another Datone Jones, at best. Probably not as good as Datone.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



Datone only momentarily flashed and still could make; but Randall has been very good at times and could end up being be very very good consistently. The single most important combine measurable is “attitude and dedication.” To date Datone is challenged in this area and given its yr #5, his character die is probably cast. He’s already out looking for work, which means Jones’ release from Minny was 100% a football decision, not an injury or cap one. Randall’s recent SINGLE childish team-back-stabbing loser move [that we know about] indicates he’s done with growing and probably regressing.

But, we know so little about what happens behind the scenes and if GB saw this as Randall’s base character, there’s no way Gunter is dumped or that Randall starts in 2017. This could be his base character that he’s been concealing for 2 years or this is only a short term mental crap-storm.

To be a very good player “attitude and dedication” is grounded in a devotion to take coaching. Some harbor doubts while eagerly doing what there told; sometimes those doubts root, ferment and grow until there’s an explosion. Today, Randall stands at the precipice of a cleansing Festivus miracle after the airing of grievances followed by a resumption of his assent to being a good to very good CB or Randall slinks into being a little bitch and doesn’t see the New Year in a GB uniform.
PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago
I agree on the idea that Randall was really not to blame. Or not the only one to blame. IMO HaHa was out of position. He should have been inside support so Randall could have cheated to cover the out routes. Without anybody inside he had to play the slant or it would have been and even easier TD throw.

If I am correct I probably would have had words with somebody also. Still don't know if he will make it. It took Nick Collins, Tramon Burnett all a few years before they started to reach their potential.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
DoddPower
7 years ago
I'm willing to go on the record and say Randall isn't going to develop into a significant player. There's no reason he shouldn't be able to provide decent depth, but I have very little faith that he's going to be a successful player in Green Bay. Moreover, I doubt he will be resigned, if he even makes it through his original contract. He might be able to find some success with a change of scenery eventually. Maybe. Possibly as a safety.

Of course, I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not optimistic.
beast
7 years ago

The lack of Damarious Randall EARNING a starting position just makes me repeat what I've said over and over again. TRADE OUR 1ST ROUND PICK's!! Collect extra 2nd and 3rd round's since we just seem to suck donkeys at 1st round selections.

2017 we did that and people freaked out because OMG TJ Watt!!

I still say, trade away!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



To a certain degree I very much agree... but also remember Randall's draft year was said to be one of the worst years ever in terms of number of players getting a first round grade... so much so that it was said most teams were trying hard to trade back that year, and not really finding anyone who would trade up on draft day.

There were only two 1st round, draft day, trades up... Chargers went up two spots for RB Melvin Gordon ... Broncos went up 6 spots for Denver Broncos.

So in part it depends on the draft and the players as well. Also the 2015 draft's (when Randall was selected) 2nd round wasn't that pretty either. So that could of been a lose-lose no matter what...
UserPostedImage
Bigbyfan
7 years ago
Negative: A former 1st round pick doesn't look worthy of a starting spot.

Positive: Our coaching staff is looking past draft status and is playing the guys who give us the best chance to win.
blank
nerdmann
7 years ago
Dude is a free safety trying to play corner. Dom is obsessed with tweeners.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
beast
7 years ago

Dude is a free safety trying to play corner. Dom is obsessed with tweeners.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Dom isn't the one selecting them.

It was a bad draft year, they thought he was the best CB option, and physically he might be the best... but they're haven't troubles with the mental part of it with him.

UserPostedImage
DoddPower
7 years ago

Dude is a free safety trying to play corner. Dom is obsessed with tweeners.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Yeah, I think that's his only shot and being a good player. Although I don't think he's physical or intelligent enough at FS either. Bust.
Fan Shout
beast (5h) : Thanks Mucky!
Mucky Tundra (8h) : beast, forecast is looking like 27-28 degrees at kickoff, slight chance of snow flurries
Zero2Cool (11h) : Oh? It wasn't on the injury report. That sucks, but it's what is best.
packerfanoutwest (12h) : Doubs is out due to concussion
beast (14h) : What does the weather look like?
Martha Careful (18h) : You can wear long-johns mittens and a hat. We want Hill and their other skill guys FROZEN
Zero2Cool (22h) : I'm not sure I hope for that. I'll be at the game.
Martha Careful (25-Nov) : I hope it is colder than a well-diggers ass on Thanksgiving night.
Zero2Cool (25-Nov) : doubt he wants to face the speedsters
beast (25-Nov) : Dolphins offense can be explosive... I wonder if we'll have Alexander back
Zero2Cool (25-Nov) : No Doubs could be issue Thursday
Mucky Tundra (25-Nov) : Bears. Santos. Blocked FG
Zero2Cool (24-Nov) : Bears. Vikings. OT
Mucky Tundra (24-Nov) : Thems the breaks I guess
Mucky Tundra (24-Nov) : Two players out and Williams had an injury designation this week but Oladapo is a healthy scratch
Zero2Cool (24-Nov) : Packers inactives vs 49ers: • CB Jaire Alexander • S Kitan Oladapo • LB Edgerrin Cooper • OL Jacob Monk
TheKanataThrilla (24-Nov) : Aaron Jones with a costly red zone fumble
Zero2Cool (24-Nov) : When we trade Malik for a 1st rounder, we'll need a new QB2.
packerfanoutwest (23-Nov) : Report: Aaron Rodgers wants to play in 2025, but not for the Jets
beast (23-Nov) : That's what I told the Police officer about my speed when he pulled me over
packerfanoutwest (23-Nov) : NFL told Bears that Packers’ blocked field goal was legal
packerfanoutwest (22-Nov) : 49ers are underdogs at Packers, ending streak of 36 straight games as favorites
Zero2Cool (22-Nov) : 49ers might be down their QB, DL, TE and LT?
packerfanoutwest (22-Nov) : Jaire Alexander says he has a torn PCL
Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : Even with the context it's ... what?
Mucky Tundra (20-Nov) : Matt LaFleur without context: “I don’t wanna pat you on the butt and you poop in my hand.”
beast (20-Nov) : We brought in a former Packers OL coach to help evaluate OL as a scout
beast (20-Nov) : Jets have been pretty good at picking DL
Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : He landed good players thanks to high draft slot. He isn't good.
Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : He can shove his knowledge up his ass. He knows nothing.
beast (20-Nov) : More knowledge, just like bring in the Jets head coach
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : What? Why? Huh?
beast (19-Nov) : I wonder if the Packers might to try to bring Douglas in through Milt Hendrickson/Ravens connections
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : The Jets fired Joe Douglas, per sources
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : Jets are a mess......
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Pretty sure Jets fired their scouting staff and just pluck former Packers.
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Jets sign Anders Carlson to their 53.
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : When you cycle the weeks, the total over remains for season. But you get your W/L for that selected week. Confusing.
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : the total and percentage are the same as the previous weeks
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : the total and percentage are the same as the previous weeks
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : the totals are accurate..nrvrtmind
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : I don't follow what you are saying. The totals are not the same as last week.
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : ok so then wht are the totals the same as last week?
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : NFL Pick'em is auto updated when NFL Scores tab is clicked
Martha Careful (19-Nov) : The offense was OK. Let's not forget the Bear defense is very very good.
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : Who updates the leaderboard on NFLPickem?
beast (19-Nov) : Has the Packers offense been worse since the former Jets coach joined the Packers?
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Offense gets his ass in gear, this could be good.
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Backup QB helped with three wins. Special Teams contributed to three wins.
bboystyle (18-Nov) : Lions played outside thats why. They scored 16 and 17 in the only 2 outside games this year
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 12:00 PM
Vikings
Saturday, Jan 4 @ 11:00 PM
BEARS
Recent Topics
5h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

7h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

12h / Featured Content / Martha Careful

13h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

15h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

17h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

25-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

25-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / buckeyepackfan

24-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / buckeyepackfan

24-Nov / GameDay Threads / Zero2Cool

23-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

23-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

21-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

21-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

21-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2024 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.