Barfarn
  • Barfarn
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7 years ago

Can't believe you are parroting the bullshit bankruptcy lie.

Here is some facts. Healthcare is expensive, ACA didn't make anything cheaper, it did the opposite. what is the cause of that is government interference. Every dollar of medical expense we run through insurance increases the cost 15-20% just in insurance company profit. Overall in the business world, if a company can operate on 15-20% overhead, they are doing great most companies run that just on employee salaries. The only reason Insurance can do it is because they use our premium dollars to generate other revenue. That is something government can't do so government will never be able to provide the same service any cheaper.

The best way is to make people more self sufficient. Rather than dumping all or dollars into the insurance companies bank accounts, dump it into the peoples HSA accounts and let them use some to buy cheaper catastrophic coverage. Or even let groups pool their money and self insure. On average insurance gets about 8K for a persons insurance, then the person has another 3000-4000 in deductible before Insurance start paying, how is that affordable? That is around 10,000-12,000 a person could put in their HSA. Those same people until age 50 average less than 4000 in medical expense a year. By the time a person reaches their senior years, they would have a huge nestegg for medical care.

Then we need to actually look at how to bring down the actual medical cost that drive the higher prices. Nobody has even thought about that discussion.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



Capitalism only works if there is morality.

The insurance companies and health care companies need to be ELIMINATED! It is the trillions they are sucking out of the available pool of $$$ that is making it unaffordable. The GOP is 100% bought of by the medical/insurance lobby and are gripped with finding ways to "kill off" minorities; the Dems are not far behind. The people need to get pitchforks and torches and march to get healthcare.

Even if it is not in your interest; call your lawmakers and demand single payer. At least its a step in right direction.
PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago

Capitalism only works if there is morality.

The insurance companies and health care companies need to be ELIMINATED! It is the trillions they are sucking out of the available pool of $$$ that is making it unaffordable. The GOP is 100% bought of by the medical/insurance lobby and are gripped with finding ways to "kill off" minorities; the Dems are not far behind. The people need to get pitchforks and torches and march to get healthcare.

Even if it is not in your interest; call your lawmakers and demand single payer. At least its a step in right direction.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



Single payer can be no cheaper
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
DakotaT
7 years ago

Pay for the insurance and nobody gets kicked off. You are just a welfare whore.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



Fuck off! My wife and I both have a family insurance plan through our work. I stand up for the little people, something you would know nothing about.
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DakotaT
7 years ago

Single payer can be no cheaper

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



What a moronic statement. What do you do for a living again? I'll be able to understand you much better when I know your occupation.
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