Formo
15 years ago

Yep it is "easier" and yep it was a different kind of war (WWII). I have said for the past year that we (military personnel and family) are better off than those men and women those sacrificed so much during WWII and Korea. It is hard to imagine what they went through.
While many of them volunteered as well, it is extremely difficult today to have a viable army if the soldiers are going in for the "duration". Too many politics involved.
Even though he was overseas for only one year, my son lost 3 years of college more or less and he is in the National Guard not regular army. His high school classmates have all graduated college (or are on the 5-6 year plan.) At 23 he is basically taking freshman level classes once again.

But we digress from the purpose of this thread.

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Just to digress a bit further (I'm a academic, digressing is what I do. 🙂 )...I'd rather have more of your 23-year olds with that experience in my classes than 18-year olds without it.

(Even as I wish no one had to get such experience anymore.)

But mostly I was suggesting one of those "unintended consequences". Politically, you aren't going to get volunteers without the one-year limitation. But the consequence is that you make it easier for the politicians to go to war, and end up with more 18-year olds having to do more hitches.

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I will continue the digression. I can not tell you how frustrating it is to my son to be in a freshmen level class and get a relatively simple task done in 20-30 minutes during class and the 18 yr old haven't even begun. They are still asking the instructor questions that have no bearing on the task at hand.

"wpr" wrote:



I dunno man.. If I were ever that smart.. I'd be loving the fact that I had more free time to play around than those pesky 18 year olds.
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Yep it is "easier" and yep it was a different kind of war (WWII). I have said for the past year that we (military personnel and family) are better off than those men and women those sacrificed so much during WWII and Korea. It is hard to imagine what they went through.
While many of them volunteered as well, it is extremely difficult today to have a viable army if the soldiers are going in for the "duration". Too many politics involved.
Even though he was overseas for only one year, my son lost 3 years of college more or less and he is in the National Guard not regular army. His high school classmates have all graduated college (or are on the 5-6 year plan.) At 23 he is basically taking freshman level classes once again.

But we digress from the purpose of this thread.

"Formo" wrote:



Just to digress a bit further (I'm a academic, digressing is what I do. 🙂 )...I'd rather have more of your 23-year olds with that experience in my classes than 18-year olds without it.

(Even as I wish no one had to get such experience anymore.)

But mostly I was suggesting one of those "unintended consequences". Politically, you aren't going to get volunteers without the one-year limitation. But the consequence is that you make it easier for the politicians to go to war, and end up with more 18-year olds having to do more hitches.

"wpr" wrote:



I will continue the digression. I can not tell you how frustrating it is to my son to be in a freshmen level class and get a relatively simple task done in 20-30 minutes during class and the 18 yr old haven't even begun. They are still asking the instructor questions that have no bearing on the task at hand.

"Wade" wrote:



I dunno man.. If I were ever that smart.. I'd be loving the fact that I had more free time to play around than those pesky 18 year olds.

"wpr" wrote:



I can not imagine him chasing after an 18 year old.
His girl friend just turned 20. He felt a bit sleezy when she was still 19.
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15 years ago

Yep it is "easier" and yep it was a different kind of war (WWII). I have said for the past year that we (military personnel and family) are better off than those men and women those sacrificed so much during WWII and Korea. It is hard to imagine what they went through.
While many of them volunteered as well, it is extremely difficult today to have a viable army if the soldiers are going in for the "duration". Too many politics involved.
Even though he was overseas for only one year, my son lost 3 years of college more or less and he is in the National Guard not regular army. His high school classmates have all graduated college (or are on the 5-6 year plan.) At 23 he is basically taking freshman level classes once again.

But we digress from the purpose of this thread.

"wpr" wrote:



Just to digress a bit further (I'm a academic, digressing is what I do. 🙂 )...I'd rather have more of your 23-year olds with that experience in my classes than 18-year olds without it.

(Even as I wish no one had to get such experience anymore.)

But mostly I was suggesting one of those "unintended consequences". Politically, you aren't going to get volunteers without the one-year limitation. But the consequence is that you make it easier for the politicians to go to war, and end up with more 18-year olds having to do more hitches.

"Formo" wrote:



I will continue the digression. I can not tell you how frustrating it is to my son to be in a freshmen level class and get a relatively simple task done in 20-30 minutes during class and the 18 yr old haven't even begun. They are still asking the instructor questions that have no bearing on the task at hand.

"wpr" wrote:



I dunno man.. If I were ever that smart.. I'd be loving the fact that I had more free time to play around than those pesky 18 year olds.

"Wade" wrote:



I can not imagine him chasing after an 18 year old.
His girl friend just turned 20. He felt a bit sleezy when she was still 19.

"wpr" wrote:



Ohhh, no no no. That's not what I meant. I mean, he's have more free than the other students have, due to him being done with his school work in a timely fashion.
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