Utah, Oregon, Washington, Montana, Wyoming

Were those all "confiscated" from Mexico. Your ideas are past moronic.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 

That don't bother me. He's a fucking lightweight anyway!

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 

I guess that means we should all move back to Europe and give the country back to the Indians.....uh.....I mean "native Americans".

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 

I'll ask this question. why should the federal government own all this land rather than the states whose borders it lies within? Look east of the Mississippi and the feds own on average <5% of the land within the individual states, Look west and states have in some cases around 30% of their land federally owned to almost 85%.. This puts Western states at a disadvantage in that they are unable to collect property taxes or generate revenue off 20,30,50,85% of the land within their borders. This land should be given to those states to manage. If there is a national park or federal facility, fine let the feds keep ownership on that land, but give the rest back to the states like it is in the rest of the country..

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 

Please don't make personal attacks.

Originally Posted by: wpr 

Seductive and fatally flawed argument. The problem with it is that the states with most federal land tend to be in better fiscal shape and/or have lower taxes than states east. And its a red herring; the states that have much Fed land are what they are and they've been this way for centuries, some scores. They've learned to accept and live with the territory they control.

Whatever benefit your idea of fairness to Western states gives; you have to weigh that against Koch Industries, Massey Coal, Exxon, Nestle [They water mine as well as provide delicious chocolate bars], et al. who will rape, pillage and sodomize the land for profit that they will NOT pay taxes on!!!!!

These corporate pigs will write off these profits in the form of mind numbing campaign contributions, providing trips, transportation and underhanded payments to state and local politicians and law enforcement so they look they other way on their rampant criminal behavior. They also take billions in compensation every year. Yes a million or 2 is used to by a boat or remodel the summer cottage in the Hamptons, these crumbs trickle down to the peasants. The rest is sheltered in off-shore accounts and dummy corporations.

This is how "trickle down" economics works...a trickle of the cash trickles to the peasants.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 

Are trying out to be a writer for CNN or MSN? since trump has been elected your no football posting has become worse than birther movement.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 

You are a funny dude PFWT!

I feel guilty even thinking about football: plus there's the time. I contacted both of my senators this morning concerning the Comey firing. I reminded them that they are attorneys and of various parts of their Professional code of conduct. I reminded them of a citizen's civic duty to file a complaint against an attorney's license if they learn that an attorney is behaving in a way that brings disrepute on the legal profession.

Our democracy is in peril, we are at a tipping point.

Micheal Moore warned last year that if Trump is elected this will be our last Presidential election. If the people allow Trump to fire everyone investigating his Russian collusion; he is someone who is 100% above the law, who can do what he wants. Now in 3+ years; why cant he just cancel the elections and name himself Czar Trump.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 

No Cheesey, you stay exactly what you are, a Republican. And Fox News will guide on how to keep being cruel to the Native Americans and gay people. But then, you already had that mastered didn't you?

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 

It must bother you. Over the past several years you have said we don't admonish people attacking you.

Originally Posted by: wpr