Guess the first round pick· Page 4

Smokey
Veteran Member

7 years ago

Quantity over Quality , Lower Salaries over Motivated players . Championships be damned as long as we maintain the Status Que . Get players on the cheap , train them to compete, then watch them leave for better money. Keep a few High priced players that ensure you will make it to the playoffs . Ohh , and don't forget the loyal fans that follow blindly with whatever they are told to believe .

Those of us that honestly see beyond the propaganda know what a winner looks like, and these days it is NE. Study what they do and GB could be just as competitive.

You can be guaranteed that as long as Ted Thompson is running things , GB will not not compete beyond the playoffs . The Packers will have just enough success to satisfy the public , the lack of success will be blamed upon injuries and bad luck and poor field conditions and the referees and the coaches and etc. ...

Mike McCarthy can't criticize the GM for his crappy management decisions . He has to stand smiling with Ted Thompson and keep his mouth shut to keep his job. Given better players Couch McCarthy could deliver championships with ring's and trophy's .

I've known people like Ted Thompson in my own life. They are the ones that say , The job is not the best we could have done, but it is good enough . Good Enough ! Good Enough !

The first player GB will pick, (provided Ted Thompson does not trade down again) , may be the first player picked in the second round of of the 2017 NFL Draft. Do you imagine that this player will be 100% motivated given that he has just lost out on a considerable amount of money so Ted Thompson could pinch a few dollars . The fellow will make the best of his time in GB and run for another team as soon as he can. In the mean time, GB gets , and deservedly so , a bad reputation throughout the league for being cheap with it's players . It already has .

What is the solution, clean house , starting at the top.

wpr
Preferred Member

7 years ago

#32

I am sooooo glad we get an extra 4th rounder pick because THAT player will be awesome. The value for the trade was correct according to the charts but when other teams got so much more for the trades this was embarrassing.

DarkaneRules
Veteran Member

7 years ago

#33

Oh boy! We're going to have a lot of pissed off Watt fans for quite a while.

I like the move for what it is and that is a play for more picks now and possibly on both Friday and Saturday. The top spot of any round, especially the earlier ones, is prime real estate, my friends! Then, and this is what will rub more people the wrong way, we have the revelation that there are simply other guys who were ranked equal or greater to TJ on the Pack's board at this time. And least from what I know right now, because we can't predict the future, I tend to agree with them.

Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance

wpr
Preferred Member

7 years ago

#34

Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules

Go ahead and do a happy dance. I don't mind. At the end of the day they traded out of the 1st round. They gave up a 5th year of control and all they got was a 4th round pick. Nothing to get excited about. The world needs more Jake Ryan's and Blake Martinez.

DarkaneRules
Veteran Member

7 years ago

#35

I'm really not any more excited than I was, which wasn't that excited anyway. I'm just not really bummed or bitter about the exchange.

Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance

nerdmann
Premier Member

7 years ago

#36

Originally Posted by: wpr

With the depth at CB, WR, RB and possibly OLB, there will be 2-3 round level players in the mid to late rounds. Ted is gonna trade back again amd get a third, still get someone on his list.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member

7 years ago

#37

And the Bonehead of the 2017 Draft award goes to the Chicago Bears. For those who complain about Ted, just think of how much worse it could be.

The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!

wpr
Preferred Member

7 years ago

#38

With the depth at CB, WR, RB and possibly OLB, there will be 2-3 round level players in the mid to late rounds. Ted is gonna trade back again amd get a third, still get someone on his list.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

I know there is depth. I know Teddy can move back up. Still think he could or should have gotten a little more for the deal. The market was high yesterday. He took the norm deal. He gets a "C" or "C-" I give Cleveland a "B+". *

*All grades aren't final and subject to change for 10 years.

PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member

7 years ago

#39

Originally Posted by: wpr

Looking at what Seattle got from SF, I doubt there was much more value in a trade to be had.

I'm thinking Ted might use some of our picks and move up and get another 2nd or 3rd rounder. having 4 2nd/3rd rounders would make me pretty happy, assuming they are not all punters.

The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!

wpr
Preferred Member

7 years ago

#40

And the Bonehead of the 2017 Draft award goes to the Chicago Bears. For those who complain about Ted, just think of how much worse it could be.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins

While driving around I was listening to the SCORE and ESPN 1000. Most of the radio heads are stoked. They know that the lower in the draft you go, the greater the risk that the player selected won't pan out. They feel that that Chicago gave up players who are 50-50 at best for a player who will lead the team for 10 years or more. It may not have been the QB they wanted but they realize Bears, Inc vetted all the QBs and liked their guy best. Odds are he will sit for 2 years and learn which is what you need to do with rookie QBs.

Personally I think they paid too much one of the teams bidding for the # 2 slot was Cleveland. All the more reason for Teddy to hold out for a better offer than simply an average one. It would have been win win for him.

If Cleveland didn't pony up he has the best of all the "equal ability" players and he gets him at a cap friendly 5 years. If he makes Cleveland pony up more, say a # 3 slot he gets a better player than he will at 5 and he doesn't have to package picks to move up.

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