I don't see them continuing to conduct airstrikes against the "rebels" as really being retaliation. Its not like they were not doing it before the Tomahawks strike. You say Russia wasn't going to let them do it again. Russia could have stopped them from doing it in the first place. So now after two chemical attacks for certain, what gives you so much faith that Russia would do different next time?


I ask you the same question, what should we be doing? Wiping our hands of the matter? Should we be strictly enforcing a no fly zone over civilian populations to protect them. Should we snipe Assad and his family so nobody is left to take over for him? Should we make a new parking lot in Syria.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 

Except I never said that.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

That's easy: Not what Trump is doing!!!!!!

They're antagonizing Kim Jung-un; and he could easily fire and sink some of those ships; then whatchya gonna do...LOL

You have to imagine Florida being a separate country occupied by some nutjob with the largest army in the world, 3x the size of US army [including paramilitary], and 4th largest standing army, who has nukes and bizillions of chemical weapons pointed at DC, Atlanta, Philly, Nashville etc. Then some orange deranged buffoon, who is destroying servers that possess googles of environmental research that cost billions to accumulate over the years, is threatening to invade/nuke. Jung-un will not go down alone; he'll take as many out as possible. Atlanta [10M people of Seoul in my hypothetical] will be obliterated in minutes.

China will not let you nuke N. Korea because the fallout will destroy/harm vast amounts of China. China will not let Trump invade; if he does either, China will no doubt retaliate. Just like we would do everything in our power to stop the Orange baboon from antagonizing or nuking or invading our hypothetical Florida neighbor.

The same fears consumed America with Russia 30-70 years ago. Being mean and nasty and threatening did nothing but cause a cold war that led to us being one spark from destruction several times. We sometimes worked to destroy ourselves over Communism [see McCarthy hearings]. And now we look back on that and think; they were so silly. The People believed that Russia's goal was to install communism all over the world.

How about treating Jung-Un like an equal. Foster a relationship, let's be mutually financially defendant on one another. What did Reagan say, "Mr Gorbechev, tear down that wall." Its not hard at all.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 

You don't want immigration because they will not vote Republican and that would make your gerrymandering more difficult.

If you wanted to eliminate waste, you wouldn't allow tax welfare to the wealthy and you would scale back the War Machine. Reform in welfare is necessary, but we need to give more help to the poor.

Your party wants to end Social Security and renege on the government's commitment to the people it has been stealing from since SS's inception.

The Republicans are the party of scare tactics, own your racism, and start treating ALL people with respect. That's all we ask for. And it is you and Cheesey that are the delusionoids in this forum.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 

"Antagonizing" Kim Jung-un????
Yeah.....ignoring him (and his looney tunes father) really stabilized things, didn't it? Maybe If Obama would have taken a stance against that whacko 8 years back, he wouldn't be the nut with his finger on the button he is now.
So what exactly are we to do? Allow him to fire off test nukes until he decides to fire off REAL ones?

I guess we should do that with all animals. Let them get weapons, and not hold them accountable and "whistle in the grave yard", HOPING they will be "nice guys".
That's really worked in the past, hasn't it?
There were many that didn't want us involved in WW2. They told us to "mind our own business".
Had we done that, Hitler would have destroyed and taken over Europe, and maybe eventually the United States.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 

I have absolutely no worry about North Korea attacking one of our ships. First the would more than likely fail, and second Jung-un would be gone before he could blink. And China would either stand by and watch or more likely join in on the fun.

Diplomacy has been proven not to work with North Korea.

Jung-un is another person who should have their head exploded from a mile out.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 

Your posts prove my point. Previous you claim republicans don't want immigration but your ideas about us contradict each other. You claim how we love corporations, well corporations love immigrants because they can pay them less. So which is it? In reality Republicans are very much for immigration LEGALLY. That is the part democrats like you fail to comprehend. We say we want to crack down on ILLEGAL immigration, you do your normal twist to promote division in saying we hate all immigration, or that we hate Mexicans.

Social programs. We want to eliminate Waste and Abuse of the systems, which would actually benefit the poor that actually need it. But again, people like you have to claim we hate the poor, even though it has been proven that republicans give more even after all the taxes that are taken out.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 

You're giving "democrats" too much credit. Dodd hit the nail: "different side of same shitty coin." The reality is we have a one party system: Republicrats. For different issues one side becomes the good or bad cop to help America swallow the shit they all shovel. And the corporate media's function has been reduced to running psyops for Republicrat agenda.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 

Wow....there is so much untruth in what you say, where do I start?
I don't mind immigration at all, and have stated so. What I want is LEGAL immigration. People coming here, obeying the laws on the books, and becoming citizens. Is that so terrible?
And tax welfare for the rich....another liberal mainstay that is said over and over, with NO proof. Yeah....we HATE the poor! What a load of crap.
And stealing from SS??? REALLY??? "My" party wasn't in control for the last 8 years. What "great" saving of SS was done under Obama?
And "scare tactics"? Isn't that ALL you and your party do?
"They HATE the poor! They will take away your social security! They are RACISTS! They hate ANYONE of color!"
All you do is spread things that are NOT true. Your party tells you WHAT to think, not HOW to think for yourself. So you blindly spread your party's hatred, and believe without question anything they tell you.
But we are the party of scare tactics? You can't see that that is ALL you constantly do?

The pot calling the kettle black.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey