Zero2Cool
8 years ago

You are on crack!EDUCATE YOURSELF!

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



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Cheesey
8 years ago
Ok...so Trump mis-spoke. Clinton and Obama never did that, right?
Oh yeah....when Bill Clinton did, it's "misspoke"..., like how he never had sexual relations with Monica.
And treason...,what is it called when a president bypasses the law and forces an unwanted so called "affordable" (which it never was) health care act on the American people.
You call Trump a"POS", yet give a pass on what Obama did? I mean, you didn't rail on him when he did what he did, right?
So once again, if the current president walks lock step with what you want, he's great. If not, he's a POS.
I knew where you stood all along.
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PackFanWithTwins
8 years ago
Sorry to tell you Barfarn, but you don't know what you are talking about. Your opinion is clouded by your hatred for Trump, and you are believing reports from "the enemy" as factual over our own people.

Unlike you, I have personal experience with Tomahawks. I was there when it was first used in combat. I know its capabilities and its accuracy. And I can tell you, when we fire 59 of them, we are not firing at 59 different targets, because while very accurate and almost impossible to stop defensively. They are not the most powerful, but what they can do, is have their target changed while in flight. What we do is have a set of primary targets, and a list of secondary targets. When the first missile hits its target, and doesn't destroy it, we have a 2nd, 3rd 4th able to follow up and once we determine the target is destroyed, we can then divert any remaining missiles on that target to secondary targets. So when you have 2 or 3 missiles hitting the same target within feet of each other, you cannot tell if it was 1 or 2 or 3 so trying to count the number of impacts is a waste. that is like looking at a target after a marksman shoots the 10 ring out of the target and saying. Well there is only one hole so you must have missed the target completely with the rest of the bullets.

Now take your own advice and get educated before opening your big mouth. Or computer device in this case.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
Barfarn
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8 years ago

Sorry to tell you Barfarn, but you don't know what you are talking about. Your opinion is clouded by your hatred for Trump, and you are believing reports from "the enemy" as factual over our own people.

Unlike you, I have personal experience with Tomahawks. I was there when it was first used in combat. I know its capabilities and its accuracy. And I can tell you, when we fire 59 of them, we are not firing at 59 different targets, because while very accurate and almost impossible to stop defensively. They are not the most powerful, but what they can do, is have their target changed while in flight. What we do is have a set of primary targets, and a list of secondary targets. When the first missile hits its target, and doesn't destroy it, we have a 2nd, 3rd 4th able to follow up and once we determine the target is destroyed, we can then divert any remaining missiles on that target to secondary targets. So when you have 2 or 3 missiles hitting the same target within feet of each other, you cannot tell if it was 1 or 2 or 3 so trying to count the number of impacts is a waste. that is like looking at a target after a marksman shoots the 10 ring out of the target and saying. Well there is only one hole so you must have missed the target completely with the rest of the bullets.

Now take your own advice and get educated before opening your big mouth. Or computer device in this case.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



Nothing I said indicated I "believed" Russian or Syrian reports..NOTHING. This is a misrepresentation of the truth. Please do me and America a favor; do not teach this behavior to your twins, it'll cripple them for life!!!!!! Its been proven that US is LYING about accuracy; and I've shown the sat pics support the Syrian and Russian narratives better than the US's. So address the sat pics; use your so-called "experience with tomahawks" to demonstrate that anywhere near 57 missiles could have hit. Obviously you cant.

You cant address the facts head on, so you pose as an expert ["I have personal experience with Tomahawks"] and spout poppycock. The capability to redirect missiles is true and well known; but this only ADDS to the lethality of a strike. So why cant 59 missiles take out a VERY VERY VERY SMALL military target [13 hangers, 2 runways]? 20% of the base was destroyed and it was operational within hours. This means 1 of 2 things: (1) about 300 missiles were needed to take out this VERY SMALL target or (2) no where near 57 missiles hit.

In a typical attack Tomahawks are launched in waves. Wave #2 is launched behind wave #1 with sufficient time to determine the extent of damage of wave #1 and to redirect. This requires wave #2 to be launched no less than about 25 minutes after #1. But, initial reports indicate all 59 were launched within minutes; so all this drivel about redirecting is a your personal red herring. Why are you doing this?

Also, you didn't address why our Government is LYING. You correctly admit the results of damage is known is such a short time that already launched missiles can be redirected. So why did they say on day 1 that 58 of 59 hit and 5 days later say 57 of 59 hit only after it as confirmed a 2nd missile was found in Al-Hamrat. And Trump said 5 days later that 59 of 59 hit their intended targets. Our military knew EXACTLY how many missiles hit within an hour of the strike. People LIE when the truth doesn't support the narrative they want to put forth. Obviously, our military was embarrassed by its performance and put forth a narrative that they thought could be shallowed [1 miss]; but when this could not be supported they changed their narrative to 2 misses. The "1 miss or 0 miss" narratives are outright LIES and YOU know it! The G LIED about WMD for Iraqi invasion.

With the US losing all credibility on the accuracy of the strike; attention is directed to very specific info: the before and after sat photos. A coward would never address these very specific allegations. Instead of just shutting up; you embark on a mission to deceive and sodomize the truth. Shame on you.

Its kinda funny, embarrassing to US military, that to protect ALL of their best planes, Syria didn't even take them off the base; they just parked them 30 yards off taxi ways and runways in a field. only junkers were left in bunkers. Of course, the US when taking sat photos of the damage surely saw this. Wonder why a second wave wasn't sent to get these planes. I'm guessing they were horrified by Russia's air defense being able to knock out more than half the missiles.
Cheesey
8 years ago
"Our government is lying"....yeah ...not like when Obama and Bill Clinton were in office, right?
"You can keep your doctor" "rates won't increase" and the always popular "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, miss Lewinsky".

All that is necessary for evil to win is for good men to do nothing.

Let's face it. Truth is, if you hate the current president, you will spend all your time LOOKING for "reasons" (excuses) to continue your hate. And that's fine. After all, this is still a free country.
I know that no matter what I say, the Trump haters will keep on hating.
But it IS a shame that they didn't hold their own choices to the same level of expectations when they were in office.
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8 years ago

"Our government is lying"....yeah ...not like when Obama and Bill Clinton were in office, right?
"You can keep your doctor" "rates won't increase" and the always popular "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, miss Lewinsky".

All that is necessary for evil to win is for good men to do nothing.

Let's face it. Truth is, if you hate the current president, you will spend all your time LOOKING for "reasons" (excuses) to continue your hate. And that's fine. After all, this is still a free country.
I know that no matter what I say, the Trump haters will keep on hating.
But it IS a shame that they didn't hold their own choices to the same level of expectations when they were in office.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



I am not you! To me: when Rodgers plays great, he's a great QB; when he plays like crap , he's a crappy QB.

I worked for and voted for Obama in '08 and worked tirelessly to see him defeated in '12. He proved himself an Uncle Tom sell-out piece of smooth talking shit.

Trump said he'd drain the swamp...LOL he's done the opposite. How do you support a LIAR! And that right their is the difference between you and me. I voted for Trump in my state's primary anticipating his buffoonery was a strategy. When he got the nomination and acted even less "presidential" I realized his buffoonery wasn't an act in any way.

Under President Bannon's "leadership" and this jag's James Bond smoke screen he is laying out, they're cutting entitlements. Another lie.

AHC, is too complicated to explain to you here; but it gave care to 40-60 million Americans that would not have it today given the exponential spiraling of health care costs. The Koch Brothers, the Mercers, the medical and pharmaceutical lobby; etc. stopped a real long term working plan from being put in place. But, ACA was better than the way it was.

Trump promised affordable health care for everyone. But his sellout corrupt lying and dumbass Plan gave a huge tax break to the richest, cut 20M people from the health care rolls and eventually many more as people missed premium payments. He LIED again to you...LOL. Then he pouted like a 5 year old when his stupid plan failed. Yet you still support him. BTW, you're welcome, but I would have fought this dipshit's plan even without your thanks.

Now, who says I'm going to get rid of the ACA without having any idea what he was going to do. LIAR

Wanna fix social security take off the cap. People making 127K or under pay 6.2% of their paycheck into SSA. A person making 500K pays 1.58% and a person making 1 million pays only .79%.

Trump is knocking out the Alternative min tax; it's terrifically good for me; but very very very bad for the country. Shame on you for supporting him after he's lied to you!

Trump has asked for our flag to change from the Stars and Stripes to the Goldman-Sachs' flag
Zero2Cool
8 years ago
Regardless of who's President it's ignorant to crucify them this soon. Stop being narrow minded and walk down the middle of the aisle instead of glaring from one party at the other. This is a team, not a division.
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DoddPower
8 years ago

Regardless of who's President it's ignorant to crucify them this soon. Stop being narrow minded and walk down the middle of the aisle instead of glaring from one party at the other. This is a team, not a division.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



That's not what the ruling class wants though!
PackFanWithTwins
8 years ago
Love it when idiots who have no clue what they are talking about, type paragraphs that only prove they don't have the first clue in what they are talking about.

The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
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