2017 Draft Prospects· Page 5

steveishere
Veteran Member

7 years ago

There are a couple really interesting players this year who are at a talent level that we probably wouldn't normally have access to with our draft slot but may drop because of injury. The problem being they may not be ready to play until mid/late season or next year.

CB Sidney Jones is quite possibly the best CB in the draft but tore his achilles. Could be a huge steal for us if he's able to come back from the injury but we'd have to wait on him.

TE Jake Butt and CB Fabian Moreau could be available to us at our 2nd round or maybe even later picks

You are typically waiting on rookies to start having a big impact anyways so these guys are something to think about.

wpr
Preferred Member

7 years ago

#42

Originally Posted by: steveishere

Ted has tried going for the injury risk player who drops to his slot. It didn't work very well.

steveishere
Veteran Member

7 years ago

#43

Ted has tried going for the injury risk player who drops to his slot. It didn't work very well.

Originally Posted by: wpr

A guy who got injured once is not necessarily an injury risk player. I think Moreau has a bad history with it and I don't know about Butt's history but I think Jones played every game in his college seasons.

sschind
Senior Member

7 years ago

#44

Ted has tried going for the injury risk player who drops to his slot. It didn't work very well.

Originally Posted by: wpr

Has he really gone after players who dropped due to injury or has he just drafted players at his spot with injury histories? I can think of a few guys who we drafted who had injury histories but I can't really think of any that were slotted to go much higher but dropped to us because of injuries. In fact I can't think of many players who Ted drafted who were expected to go much higher injured or not. You know, the guys who make you say "I can't believe he was still there."

wpr
Preferred Member

7 years ago

#45

Originally Posted by: sschind

Bustin Harrell was considered to be top 5 (maybe) certainly top 10. He dropped because of his injury history. It was reported over and over again that the GB staff (which should incl Ted couldn't believe their good luck that he was still available. That yes he had some injury issues but they believed he was past it. I realize some fans (nerdman will insist he was fine and was actually injured in TC.)

sschind
Senior Member

7 years ago

#46

Originally Posted by: wpr

Thank you for the information. I was not aware that Harrell was originally projected to go that high. I didn't always pay as much attention to pre draft hype as I do now, not that I pay a lot of attention to it now.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

7 years ago

#47

Originally Posted by: sschind

He wasn't.

Smokey
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7 years ago

#48

The current GB GM's professed draft strategy has been to draft the best player/s available. Filling the team's greatest needs is not the primary concern . However these two ways of thinking sometimes converge . It has happened before .

IMO, drafting the best CB available may just be one of those intersections this NFL Draft . After-all I am not alone in recognizing how much GB's current squad of CB's truly SUCK BILDGEWATER .

[cheers]

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

3 years ago

#49

Absolutely.

RANK	PLAYER	POS.	POS. RANK	SCHOOL	CLASS	HT.	WT.	PROJ. ROUND
1	*Myles Garrett	DE	1	Texas A&M	Jr	6-4	272	1
2	*Solomon Thomas	DE	2	Stanford	rSo	6-3	273	1
3	Jonathan Allen	DT	1	Alabama	Sr	6-3	286	1
4	*Marshon Lattimore	CB	1	Ohio State	rSo	6-0	193	1
5	*Jamal Adams	SS	1	LSU	Jr	6-0	214	1
6	*Malik HookerInjured	FS	1	Ohio State	rSo	6-1	206	1
7	O.J. Howard	TE	1	Alabama	Sr	6-6	251	1
8	*Derek Barnett	DE	3	Tennessee	Jr	6-3	259	1
9	Reuben Foster	ILB	1	Alabama	Sr	6-0	229	1
10	*Dalvin Cook	RB	1	Florida State	Jr	5-10	210	1
11	*Leonard Fournette	RB	2	LSU	Jr	6-0	240	1
12	*Mitch Trubisky	QB	1	North Carolina	rJr	6-2	222	1
13	Haason Reddick	OLB	1	Temple	rSr	6-1	237	1
14	*Jabrill Peppers	SS	2	Michigan	rSo	5-11	213	1
15	Corey Davis	WR	1	Western Michigan	Sr	6-3	209	1
16	*Deshaun Watson	QB	2	Clemson	Jr	6-2	221	1
17	*Ryan RamczykInjured	OT	1	Wisconsin	rJr	6-6	310	1
18	*John Ross	WR	2	Washington	rJr	5-11	188	1
19	*Marlon Humphrey	CB	2	Alabama	rSo	6-0	197	1
20	*Malik McDowell	DT	2	Michigan State	Jr	6-6	295	1
21	*Mike Williams	WR	3	Clemson	rJr	6-4	218	1
22	*Christian McCaffrey	RB	3	Stanford	Jr	5-11	202	1
23	Taco Charlton	DE	4	Michigan	Sr	6-6	277	1
24	*David Njoku	TE	2	Miami (Fla.)	rSo	6-4	246	1
25	*Zach Cunningham	OLB	2	Vanderbilt	rJr	6-3	234	1
26	*DeShone Kizer	QB	3	Notre Dame	rSo	6-4	233	1-2
27	Fabian Moreau	CB	3	UCLA	rSr	6-0	206	1-2
28	Forrest Lamp	OG	1	Western Kentucky	rSr	6-4	309	1-2
29	Evan Engram	TE	3	Ole Miss	Sr	6-3	234	1-2
30	*Patrick Mahomes II	QB	4	Texas Tech	Jr	6-2	225	1-2
31	*Garett Bolles	OT	2	Utah	Jr	6-5	297	1-2
32	*Charles Harris	DE	5	Missouri	rJr	6-3	253	1-2
33	Obi Melifonwu	SS	3	Connecticut	rSr	6-4	224	1-2
34	Takkarist McKinley	OLB	3	UCLA	Sr	6-2	250	1-2
35	*Cam Robinson	OT	3	Alabama	Jr	6-6	322	1-2
36	TreDavious White	CB	4	LSU	Sr	5-11	192	1-2
37	Cordrea Tankersley	CB	5	Clemson	Sr	6-1	199	1-2
38	Tim Williams	OLB	4	Alabama	Sr	6-3	244	1-2
39	Chidobe Awuzie	CB	6	Colorado	Sr	6-0	202	1-2
40	*Carl Lawson	DE	6	Auburn	rJr	6-2	261	1-2
41	*T.J. Watt	OLB	5	Wisconsin	rJr	6-4	252	2
42	*Curtis Samuel	WR	4	Ohio State	Jr	5-11	196	2
43	*Caleb Brantley	DT	3	Florida	rJr	6-3	307	2
44	*Budda Baker	FS	2	Washington	Jr	5-10	195	2
45	*Teez Tabor	CB	7	Florida	Jr	6-0	199	2
46	Jourdan Lewis	CB	8	Michigan	Sr	5-10	188	2
47	*Raekwon McMillan	ILB	2	Ohio State	Jr	6-2	240	2
48	Dan Feeney	OG	2	Indiana	rSr	6-4	305	2
49	*Gareon Conley	CB	9	Ohio State	rJr	6-0	195	2
50	*Chris Godwin	WR	5	Penn State	Jr	6-1	209	2
51	Jarrad Davis	ILB	3	Florida	Sr	6-1	238	2
52	Dion Dawkins	OG	3	Temple	Sr	6-4	314	2
53	*Adam Shaheen	TE	4	Ashland	rJr	6-6	278	2
54	*Alvin Kamara	RB	4	Tennessee	rJr	5-10	214	2
55	Kevin King	CB	10	Washington	Sr	6-3	200	2
56	Larry Ogunjobi	DT	4	Charlotte	rSr	6-3	305	2
57	Desmond King	FS	3	Iowa	Sr	5-10	201	2
58	Dorian Johnson	OG	4	Pittsburgh	Sr	6-5	300	2
59	Taylor Moton	OT	4	Western Michigan	rSr	6-5	319	2
60	*Josh Jones	SS	4	NC State	rJr	6-1	220	2
61	Cooper Kupp	WR	6	Eastern Washington	rSr	6-2	204	2
62	*Quincy Wilson	CB	11	Florida	Jr	6-1	211	2
63	Tarell Basham	DE	7	Ohio	Sr	6-4	269	2
64	Duke Riley	OLB	6	LSU	Sr	6-0	232	2
65	Chris Wormley	DT	5	Michigan	rSr	6-5	298	2-3
66	Gerald Everett	TE	5	South Alabama	rSr	6-3	239	2-3
67	Tyus Bowser	OLB	7	Houston	Sr	6-3	247	2-3
68	*Adoree' Jackson	CB	12	Southern California	Jr	5-10	186	2-3
69	*Roderick Johnson	OT	5	Florida State	Jr	6-7	298	2-3
70	*ArDarius Stewart	WR	7	Alabama	rJr	5-11	204	2-3
71	Pat Elflein	C	1	Ohio State	rSr	6-3	303	2-3
72	Zay Jones	WR	8	East Carolina	Sr	6-2	201	2-3
73	*Sidney JonesInjured	CB	13	Washington	Jr	6-0	186	2-3
74	*Bucky Hodges	TE	6	Virginia Tech	rJr	6-6	257	2-3
75	Ahkello Witherspoon	CB	14	Colorado	rSr	6-3	198	2-3
76	Jordan Willis	DE	8	Kansas State	Sr	6-4	255	2-3
77	*Marcus Williams	FS	4	Utah	Jr	6-1	202	2-3
78	*JuJu Smith-Schuster	WR	9	Southern California	Jr	6-1	215	2-3
79	Dalvin Tomlinson	DT	6	Alabama	rSr	6-3	310	2-3
80	Isaac Asiata	OG	5	Utah	rSr	6-3	323	2-3
81	Montravius Adams	DT	7	Auburn	Sr	6-4	304	2-3
82	*Carlos Henderson	WR	10	Louisiana Tech	rJr	5-11	199	2-3
83	Davis Webb	QB	5	California	Sr	6-5	229	2-3
84	Derek Rivers	DE	9	Youngstown State	Sr	6-4	248	2-3
85	Antonio Garcia	OT	6	Troy	rSr	6-6	302	3
86	*Joe Mixon	RB	5	Oklahoma	rSo	6-1	226	3
87	*Vincent Taylor	DT	8	Oklahoma State	rJr	6-3	304	3
88	Cameron Sutton	CB	15	Tennessee	Sr	5-11	188	3
89	*Elijah Qualls	DT	9	Washington	rJr	6-1	313	3
90	Ethan Pocic	C	2	LSU	Sr	6-6	310	3
91	Rasul Douglas	CB	16	West Virginia	rSr	6-2	209	3
92	Ryan Anderson	OLB	8	Alabama	rSr	6-2	253	3
93	Amara Darboh	WR	11	Michigan	rSr	6-2	214	3
94	Tyler Orlosky	C	3	West Virginia	rSr	6-3	298	3
95	Eddie JacksonInjured	SS	5	Alabama	Sr	6-0	201	3
96	*Chad Hansen	WR	12	California	rJr	6-2	202	3
97	DeMarcus Walker	DE	10	Florida State	Sr	6-4	280	3
98	Jaleel Johnson	DT	10	Iowa	rSr	6-3	316	3
99	Will Holden	OT	7	Vanderbilt	rSr	6-7	311	3
100	Taywan Taylor	WR	13	Western Kentucky	Sr	5-11	203	3

If you want more I can get them for you. It really doesn't matter which players we talk about because we have no idea what players the other GMs are going to select, how soon they will take them, which players are available for Un cle Teddy to choose from and which ones he will want. But if you want the next 100 names or if this top 100 list doesn't keep you busy I can find another one.

Originally Posted by: wpr

All those players ahead of Rasul.

wpr
Preferred Member

3 years ago

#50

All those players ahead of Rasul.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

What do you expect? I no nothing and got the list from a trash website. (All most all draft prospect websites are trash because they don't have the ability/insight that actual NFL teams with their staff has.

Then again, 3 teams whiffed on him this year alone. 31 teams have whiffed on him since 2017. Actually 32 because it took until Oct 2021 for GB to finally get around to signing him.

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