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8 years ago

Packers find hits with free agents -- when they've bothered to sign them

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Given the level of success Thompson has had when he has dipped into free agency, there’s a decent argument to be made that he should do it more often.

Thus the frustration of many a fan.
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Barfarn
8 years ago
These fans of which you speak clearly must ignore reality to indulge their silly frustrations.

Here's reality: Ted has spent EVERY god damn Cap dollar he's had and that is over 1.5 BILLION dollars. The only amount he has not spent of this 1.5 BILLION is the 7.9M he just rolled over. And that was kept for a mid season acquisition and/or to extend Perry, Elliot, Jones, Hyde and/or Tretter, if they performed as expected and the other side agreed.

A fan that ignores the Cap insisting Ted should spend over the Cap has got to be a nut.

More reality: The team Ted inherited from Sherman did not have quality players worth retaining; so Ted used the money not used to extend and sign his own players and filled the holes by signing outside FAs.

Even more reality: Generally, after signing his own players, if there was money left he signed outside FAs.

The opinion that Ted should just sign more outside guys is patently irrational and it makes people more stupid after hearing it. Now the Argument Ted should have signed X instead of Cobb, or Y instead of Daniels or Z instead of Bulaga is an opinion that is worth sharing.
PackFanWithTwins
8 years ago

Now the Argument Ted should have signed X instead of Cobb, or Y instead of Daniels or Z instead of Bulaga is an opinion that is worth sharing.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



Never heard of X,Y or Z. Are they any good?


Looking at the status of the team I think Ted has to go outside his norm and look more at Outside FA rather than simply filling in after signing our own. Signing our own, is not going to improve the team and I don't know if there will be enough left to make much improvement if they don't spend more outside and be even more selective of which of our own we do resign.

Some times you have to improve the depth of the team from the top not the bottom.
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Smokey
8 years ago
The general idea is that Ted Thompson is way too conservative. The safe path is to build from a rookie draft. Safe is not winning SB's.
The idea is to get good players for the team, so trade or fire or hire or spit, but get the job done. Ted Thompson has not been getting the job done.


[cheers]

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Cheesey
8 years ago
So....Ted has spent every dollar. Yet we only have one super bowl appearance while Tom Brady has 7.

Maybe Ted should have spent more wisely.
Obviously he must be doing something wrong.
A couple of FAs might push us over the top from a very good team to a great team.
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warhawk
8 years ago

Never heard of X,Y or Z. Are they any good?


Looking at the status of the team I think Ted has to go outside his norm and look more at Outside FA rather than simply filling in after signing our own. Signing our own, is not going to improve the team and I don't know if there will be enough left to make much improvement if they don't spend more outside and be even more selective of which of our own we do resign.

Some times you have to improve the depth of the team from the top not the bottom.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



While signing your own may not make the team better not signing some of these guys will make the team worse. This is certainly a challenge for Ted Thompson because there are several teams with more money lacking talent.
The Oline, for example, will be greatly challenged to be as good let alone better without Lang and Tretter and the pass rush is not going to be as good or better without Perry.
I see this off season as very difficult for Ted Thompson to maneuver through more so than in a lot of the previous years. He certainly doesn't want to start out the year with more holes and less talent than what he had at the end of last year. That's not a good start to getting better.


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coltonja
8 years ago

While signing your own may not make the team better not signing some of these guys will make the team worse. This is certainly a challenge for Ted Thompson because there are several teams with more money lacking talent.
The Oline, for example, will be greatly challenged to be as good let alone better without Lang and Tretter and the pass rush is not going to be as good or better without Perry.
I see this off season as very difficult for Ted Thompson to maneuver through more so than in a lot of the previous years. He certainly doesn't want to start out the year with more holes and less talent than what he had at the end of last year. That's not a good start to getting better.

Originally Posted by: warhawk 



Warhawk, always grateful for your input. It's nearly always balanced, well thought out and on point. This post exemplifies that.

I agree this offseason is one of the most challenging for Ted Thompson in recent years. We could overpay our own players who have come on strong this year- Perry and Hyde, or let reliable players walk- like Lang and Tretter. Filling those gaps- which are primary starters or, at least, significant role players for us will be vital this offseason. As a fan I think this is the most difficult thing to understand this time of year- it's possible for your team to get a lot worse from signing splashy "very talented" free agents and letting important players walk from your roster. We only have $40 mil a year open, and if we re-signed Lacy, Cook, Lang/Tretter and Perry that number is cut in half at least. Plus we have our rookie class to sign and major free agent question marks for the next season to think about.

That's why I enjoy playing armchair GM and yet don't envy TT's role. When it comes down to it the few million difference in each contract has major implications!

All that said let's go overspend and sign Boye!




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gbguy20
8 years ago
Resign our guys and find a way to get c. Campbell under the cap. Can we cut Cobb yet or does the dead money still kill us this year?
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nerdmann
8 years ago

The general idea is that Ted Thompson is way too conservative. The safe path is to build from a rookie draft. Safe is not winning SB's.
The idea is to get good players for the team, so trade or fire or hire or spit, but get the job done. Ted Thompson has not been getting the job done.


[cheers]

Originally Posted by: Smokey 



The last two years it's only been Ted's depth that has given us any chance whatsoever.

The year before that isn't on Ted.

The reason Ted has such a good batting average is, he picks his shots. He knows when to pull the trigger. More importantly, he knows when NOT to pull the trigger.
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DoddPower
8 years ago

The last two years it's only been Ted's depth that has given us any chance whatsoever.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



This is ignorant. The reason the Packers always have a chance is Aaron Rodgers, not bottom of the roster scrubs that can be found my most GMs every year. Others besides Aaron Rodgers need to step-up, especially on defense. How good would this team have been the past several years if they had an above average to good defense consistently? Probably at least one more super bowl championship, and few more visits.

People hold Aaron Rodgers to a standard to almost be perfect and play at an elite level and make few mistakes while accepting mediocrity from the rest of the roster. Makes sense.
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