The point is we DO NOT have to resign our own. Who says we need to burn up our cap every single season with our own guys? That seems to be a pretty weak justification for not stepping into FA. It doesn't matter where a guy comes from...better players are the goal...not just ones from your pipeline.
Yes, Barfarn is right...the Packers are at a competitive disadvantage, in theory, no question. However, how are we able to keep guys from leaving with that competitive disadvantage? We overpay them. We need to overpay better players on the outside as well. We've been exposed to story after story about Ted being close to getting something done. That doesn't matter. He wasn't close because someone chose a warmer locale...he was close because someone offered more and he was unwilling to pay any more than some supposed set number or draft position. To not get Moss because we wouldn't part with a higher pick was a crushing thing to learn. Same thing with Marshawn Lynch. How much opportunity was lost in just those two "close" failures alone? Tony Gonazlez is another. Ted is a fine middling plodding GM but Vic realizes it's finally time to stop the flatlining and do something. Close isn't close enough anymore. Total hogwash to suggest guys like Lynch and Moss didn't come here because of some competitive disadvantage. The ONLY competitive disadvantage we really have is an ultra conservative GM who keeps the bat on his shoulder and lets prime pitches get called for strike 3 all the time.
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Nothing is changing this year, Ketchum is a chump [and he's a servile little weasel😂]. Ted will do what he's always done each of his last 12 years: sign his own if he can; but this is 100% out of his control. If someone offers Perry 15M per [He's better than Jamie Collins, who got 12.5 per] and Perry wont take a huge discount, he's gone [oh and Clay's deal wont look so bad] If he dont spend the $$$ on his guys, he'll spend the cash on outside FAs [Maybe Barwin or Sean Lee]. If he signs his guys; then if there's a little left [I'm thinking now about 6-7M], Ted will use it to extend Dix or get one outside guy and that will be determined by who the outside guy is for what $$$. When it is over Ted will have all his 2017 chips in the center of the table...HE'S ALL-IN every year!
You are such a…such a…such a…journalist 😂 😂. You acknowledge the competitive disadvantage. And then reduce it to just “cold;” it is so so so much more.
The biggest obstacle is that GB is the opposite of diverse. And today Wisc.'s perception is even worse with Walker and Ryan as the face, many players will not come to a perceived or real
Trumpsconsin. At least 8 NE players [1 is white] have publicly announced they’re not going to Whitehouse. I’d bet there’s more that feel the same way and are silent or are deciding that having a once in a lifetime chance to be a guest in Whitehouse trumps the hate/fear of Trump. None of these people would come to GB if they have other options and Ted doesn’t way overpay.
Many Black players not all that concerned with coming to GB will probably have their friends, wife, parents and wife’s parents discouraging the idea of the family being immersed and surrounded by white culture and/or the fear GB is a mini Trumplandia.
UNCONTROVERTED FACT: Outside free agents are much riskier than signing your own.
First, projecting how an NFL FA player will take to your playbook, play in your schemes, surrounded by your players, is very much like projecting how a college player with project. The only difference is you know the player has NFL talent. Well, generally we know the top 10 have NFL talent and many of them don’t make it.
Second, you know for sure if the player will have personality clashes with mates or coaches and you have a better handle of what kind of person your player is. A player cannot hide from you his Aldon Smithness or drug habit or cancerous side as well if he’s in your lockroom. A LOT of FAs are not resigned, because the team knows the guy has undisclosed medicals, is coked or roided up or has other destructive personal habits and behaviors and they don’t want him or are only willing to give very small guarantees.
Third, the main reason outside free agents fail is because the family is upset or the family or the player doesn't take to the move Or the player for the first time left his family back home [And then it takes an entire day to fly anywhere]. Some FAs after adjusting get a little better in their second year.
On Moss, they couldn’t agree on a contract, had NOTHING to do with a “higher pick.” Moss wanted a 1 yr and GB wasn’t parting with picks unless they got 2 years. Moss wanted to go to GB to have a big year with a good QB, they knew he wasn’t EVER going to stay in GB. Beside this is kiddy hindsight bitching. The O wasn’t the problem; we had Driver, Jennings, Jones, etc. those resources were better spent on the D anyways.
On Lynch again, your research is off. Lynch had to go where traded he was in his 4th year; and this is why Buffalo dumped him, they wanted to get something for him. Ted being smart is only giving up more than a 122 (4th) and 147 (5th) if they get a contract extension in the deal. Lynch wouldn’t sign a 3 year deal with GB; but did sign one in Seattle [3 yrs, 1M per]. It is because Lynch wanted to go to GB to get out of Buffalo; but for 3 years? HELL NO! It was about the contract and Lynch was so dead set against playing in GB for three years, he signed for 3M over 3 years, that's 1M per in Seattle to get out of Buffalo and stay out of GB.
Plus, our last 10 4th round picks: Sitton, Thompson, Lang, House, Daniels, Tretter, Franklin, Bahktieri, Bradford, Ryan. That’s 4 all-pros put of 10 and soon Ryan will be one. Devon House would be the 4th lost if we made the trade and losing House netted us Blake Martinez. House and Martinez helped more than Lynch ever would have, who BTW is a dick too in terms of wining the SB. And in Seattle he's allowed to be a dick, roid and coke up; he may not have been the player he was in Seattle inf he came to GB.
If you use real examples, I can address them; your perception that Ted wont sign outside guys cannot be logically supported, nor do your little "[non]proof by example" random hyperbole/outlier situations. Oh and Cobb is infinitely better than Maclin, who is below average. KC might cut him to save 5.2M; but 100% he's cut in '18 to save 8.6M.