Packers release James Starks· Page 4

Bigbyfan
Member

8 years ago

Also... are you guys really arguing whether a $2 million deal was worth it or not? Did that $2 million really matter that much one way or the other?

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steveishere
Veteran Member

8 years ago

#32

Not trying to be an ass or anything, but I've honestly been curious about this for a while now. Why were you never around when the Packers were winning, but the most active member after a Packers loss or now during the offseason? Just curious...

Originally Posted by: Bigbyfan

To be fair he wasn't here posting when GB was 4-6

steveishere
Veteran Member

8 years ago

#33

I will always appreciate Starks for knocking Brandon Meriweather the F out. That's the only time I was satisfied seeing someone get hurt.

uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

8 years ago

#34

Originally Posted by: Bigbyfan

I don't post during the season. Haven't for many years.

You didn't see me in 2015 when we were losing home games left and right.

The perception is I enjoy when the Packers lose because I show up after they do each season. I want this team to win more than most here do and my posting is a reflection of that. Not content with the losing nor the reasons we lose like most are.

If being a troll, ahole, etc. is a person with higher expectations than others, then I am the world's biggest troll.

My opinions rarely become discussed. It's much easier to just focus on me.

James was given a 2 year deal for 6 mil with a 750k signing bonus at age 29 with an injury history at the RB position. As Michael Rodney asked at the time...Who was offering anywhere near that? Why the massive over pay?
Instead of having someone else to turn to who could be paid much less Ted panicked and paid James far more than he should've. Not sure why I'm getting railed for saying so?

Read the comments to this tweet. I'm not alone in my thinking. Here at Packers.com 2.0, yes, but there's a whole big world outside this place.

https://mobile.twitter.com/PackersNotes/status/829088866036506624

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

wpr
Preferred Member

8 years ago

#35

In case someone has forgotten this thread is about James Starks. Get back on topic or it will be locked.

musccy
Veteran Member

8 years ago

#36

JS was 18th largest cap hit in 2016, about 1.5% of the cap. At the time of the signing, JS was someone who had been a borderline starter for the Packers, I don't see that as a bad contract. Did the 2.7 cap hit prevent the team from doing anything else last year?

10 months later it was clear Ted needed to cut bait, so he did. I don't see what there is to complain about. "Hopefully" Shields is next.

uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

8 years ago

#37

Originally Posted by: musccy

Perhaps, Ted signs Hayward if he isn't handing out a gift to James Starks? .

Paying a run down 29 year old backup that kind of money was foolish. RB position is so devalued these days especially for an aging delining backup which is what James was.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

musccy
Veteran Member

8 years ago

#38

Perhaps, Ted signs Hayward if he isn't handing out a gift to James Starks? .

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

10 months ago you had Shields and two productive rookie corners. You had one fat running back. We don't know that it was an either/or Hayward/Starks decision, but even if it was where was the bigger hole going into 2016?

As for JS declining, 2015 was his best year in terms of receiving and he averaged 4.1 on the ground, 5 TDs, and nearly 1,000 combined yards. 1.5% of your cap for 1,000 yards and 5 TDs, he was still under 30, and it was only 2 years. I just don't see that as an irresponsible deal at time of signing.

Clearly his production was abysmal this year, so Ted cut bait.

uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

8 years ago

#39

4.1 ypc? The definition of average?

I'm not crazy not alone on this.

Because nobody will actually look, I'll make it easy. Here's the comments on Rodney's tweet to the overpay of Starks:

@PackersNotes "teds so smart tho" that's all I ever hear

16h
MKE1985‏ @12xWorldChamps
@PackersNotes starks, hawk and Brad Jones all were around at least 1 year past their last legs
Costly roster spots eaten up.
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16h
Aaron Andrews‏ @ajapackertalk
@Mindofalex @PackersNotes he is stupid and smart at same time.

16h
Aaron Andrews‏ @ajapackertalk
@PackersNotes I've never understood the love on Starks. Could've had Forte for same price. He was banged up at end, but way more production

1

16h
COMTNZooCrew‏ @prerdman
@PackersNotes like he did to driver as well

16h
E M‏ @maascowjr
@PackersNotes but at least he can say only gb drafted players on the roster. More important that rings to him.

15h
C S‏ @cjstrow
@PackersNotes That's Ted Thompsons M.O./bias. Overvalue talent on the team.

13h
Willie DeZaldo‏ @FlaPack
@12xWorldChamps @PackersNotes he's to loyal to his draft picks. Instead of finding better players at certain positions.

2h
MKE1985‏ @12xWorldChamps
@FlaPack @PackersNotes I'm all for draft and develop. At some point admit your mistakes and bolster the roster some other way tho

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

beast
Select Member

8 years ago

#40

Originally Posted by: Bigbyfan

Because he can't gloat how badly the Packers are doing, like he does when they aren't winning...

Also... are you guys really arguing whether a $2 million deal was worth it or not? Did that $2 million really matter that much one way or the other?

Originally Posted by: Bigbyfan

To him, yes... anytime he gets to trash the current group of people for any matter then it's worth it to him...

To be fair he wasn't here posting when GB was 4-6

Originally Posted by: steveishere

Bullshit, he was all over the Shout box... say he was right and that everyone who thought the Packers would win the division now have to eat their words, and that the only people that thought the Packers could win 8 games this season were dreamers. So he was here and submitting his opinions during 4-6...

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