Barfarn
8 years ago


I was thinking a lot about MM's comments regarding Dom Capers and his seeming love affair with his DC. There's little doubt that Dom knows more about defense than most of the guys out DCing in the NFL. However, this is the problem with our club. Knowledge of defense and experience with it is NOTHING if you aren't passionate and a great communicator. I would guess Dom communicates just fine. My inkling is he has no spark, no zip. All his knowledge and experience is pretty meaningless if he doesn't have the passion.

That is the word I would use to best describe our failings. Passion, or lack thereof. Mike McCarthy is comfortable in his job as is Dom and Ted. You've got a calcified structure in Green Bay that feels no urgency. Now, I'm reading that Mark Murphy might be the one behind the chatter we're going to go for it this year. Murphy, Thompson, McCarthy, Capers all have one thing in common. None of them inspire me whatsoever. Listening to anything they have to say is flatline on the EKG meter. Where is someone who inspires in our organization. We have a bunch of comfortable, mechanical pieces. It takes one spark to start a whole blaze. Where is our spark? Rodgers doesn't have it either...Clay? Nope. Who has this ingredient? Kevin Greene had it. We need his type of passion or crazy. Wolf had it..Holmgren was fiery. Brett was a sold out warrior. This entire bunch of Packers from the top onto the field is just a colorless group of guys. I loved Aaron and wanted Brett gone so he could play but I remember when that happened I just felt like we lost our aura. That little something extra we need is passion. I hope and pray there is a new fiery star player coming to Green Bay or a front office type. Just something that can drive this emotionless group of men toward a title.

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yooperfan
8 years ago

I was thinking a lot about MM's comments regarding Dom Capers and his seeming love affair with his DC. There's little doubt that Dom knows more about defense than most of the guys out DCing in the NFL. However, this is the problem with our club. Knowledge of defense and experience with it is NOTHING if you aren't passionate and a great communicator. I would guess Dom communicates just fine. My inkling is he has no spark, no zip. All his knowledge and experience is pretty meaningless if he doesn't have the passion.

That is the word I would use to best describe our failings. Passion, or lack thereof. Mike McCarthy is comfortable in his job as is Dom and Ted. You've got a calcified structure in Green Bay that feels no urgency. Now, I'm reading that Mark Murphy might be the one behind the chatter we're going to go for it this year. Murphy, Thompson, McCarthy, Capers all have one thing in common. None of them inspire me whatsoever. Listening to anything they have to say is flatline on the EKG meter. Where is someone who inspires in our organization. We have a bunch of comfortable, mechanical pieces. It takes one spark to start a whole blaze. Where is our spark? Rodgers doesn't have it either...Clay? Nope. Who has this ingredient? Kevin Greene had it. We need his type of passion or crazy. Wolf had it..Holmgren was fiery. Brett was a sold out warrior. This entire bunch of Packers from the top onto the field is just a colorless group of guys. I loved Aaron and wanted Brett gone so he could play but I remember when that happened I just felt like we lost our aura. That little something extra we need is passion. I hope and pray there is a new fiery star player coming to Green Bay or a front office type. Just something that can drive this emotionless group of men toward a title.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 


As I was reading your post I thought about
Kevin Greene.
Perhaps he wasn't enthralled with the "flatline" hierarchy as well.
Especially after that 2011 Giants playoff debacle that he was unfortunately a part of.
uffda udfa
8 years ago


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Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



Wow. You read fast.
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Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


mojaveson
8 years ago
Clements is the quintessential fall guy. [whip2]
Winners never quit and quitters never win. - Vince Lombardi
buckeyepackfan
8 years ago

I don't mind Ted coming back I think he knows how to build a team well, but if hes bringing capers back then I'm ready to board the fire ted bandwagon.

Originally Posted by: stevegb 



Mike McCarthy decides which coaches stay and go.
I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!
gbguy20
8 years ago
So now that Clements is gone, what does that change?
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68md
8 years ago
You had to know once GB went on a run that there was no chance of any major off season changes. Clements is this yrs.."Look I made a change " goat. Same old same old in GB. Oh well time to dig into the draft and get ready for spring/Summer OTA.
Zero2Cool
8 years ago

So now that Clements is gone, what does that change?

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



One less Chief in the teepee. We should understand that Mike McCarthy didn't choose to not re-sign him, Tom choose to pursue other interests. Essentially, nothing was changed. Isn't it great?

I'm not actually wanting people to be gone as much as I'm wanting a twist in vision. I'm hoping the new GM is going to be making more decisions and we'll see a paradigm shift in approach. Not huge, just a bit more aggressive.
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