Zero2Cool
8 years ago
Saturday night I had to force myself to sleep early because of how excited I was. Sunday, I was so excited (and nervous) I was pacing back and forth in the shower. The game started and Falcons drove down and scored. This was expected. Falcons script their first two drives better than anyone in the NFL. Mason Crosby missed a very make-able (my opinion) field goal. Falcons drive down and get 3 points on that short field. Packers drive down and Aaron Ripkowski fumbles (BTW, this was a great play by Falcons more than it was a bad play by Ripkowski) short of the goal line. I knew then this was not going to end our way and began the "acceptance" stage of defeat while still hoping for a miracle.

The game is over, the season is over and I say this sucks. This fucking sucks!

I read a lot of football and watch a lot of football (probably too much to be fair) and I've seen a few fans calling the Packers season a failure if it were to end without a Super Bowl ring. That's absurd and unreasonable, but I get it. It's just the Packers season was not a failure. It was exciting and did not end how we wanted. That happens for 31 teams every single year. This team played way above its talent and overachieved. Teams like (to name a few) the 49ers, Rams, Jaguars, Bears , Jets had failure seasons.

The Packers lost their best cover corner, Sam Shields. They lost their best running back, Eddie Lacy. They lost their 2nd and 3rd best corners. They had their 2nd best receiver dinged up most of the season. They had a quarterback who battled hamstring and calf injuries. The best running back on the team came into the season as a receiver. The big free agent signing tight end missed a good deal of the season. They finished the season with the best cover corner being someone who wasn't even drafted.

It goes on an on and quite frankly it's sickening how unfortunate the Packers were, but hey other teams had injuries too. It's not an excuse.

The season was pretty damn awesome. We humiliated the Seahawks. We beat the Cowboys in their place during the playoffs for the first time in 50 years. We finally beat the Giants at OUR place (whew) and I got to bring my girls there for an amazing experience. And when the team was 4 - 6 most, if not all fans lost hope, lost faith and somehow, someway the Packers got even the most negative assholes to believe they they could, they might just win the Super Bowl.

Yes, we measure success by Championships in Green Bay and by that standard the season was a failure, just like 31 teams every season.

As a Packers fan, I'm proud of what they accomplished when all things are considered. We now must hope for some changes because it's obvious from 2014 and this 2016 season that status quo is just not cutting it.

What's your one big change you'd like to see for 2017? Mine would be, can we get a defensive coordinator that forces form tackling and doesn't let his players have 7-10 yard cushions?




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uffda udfa
8 years ago
Wow. A fight for hearts and minds while using expletives to shame your membership just because they aren't Stepford like you?

When will the parade be and the hanging of the awesome season banner take place? Might fly up for it.

The objective of professional sports is to win...Win championships not celebrate failure and tune into the participation vibe where we all get a prize and feel good.

Calling this failure awesome is delusional. The same fans and media talking about the 1 point Week 8 loss and us being stronger this time are now saying we were just too injured. The irrational excuses start flying and rationalizing and justifying take center stage so the feel good element stays after embarrassment.

This team was shutout at the half. Lost by 23 and it's all being couched as it sucks but season was still awesome? Again, what's the goal?

Aaron stands and embarrasses himself by talking about Guion having to play guard as a way to say they were too injured. Guion wasn't in the game until they were well shredded.

You want to keep feeling this Fing sucks feeling every year? Just keep going on about awesome seasons that end like this. We've had a ton of awesome and more awesome in our future.

Not sure what to say about Atlanta or New England and their seasons considering ours was awesome. What's beyond that? Awesomer?

Just the typical year and fan reaction in Packerland. Failure being labeled an awesome success. Not all in again but that's okay... We'll get em next year.
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wpr
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8 years ago
The season was disappointing not a failure. When you have #12 you always have a chance.

The biggest disappointment was how poorly the CBs did their job. It was suppose to be one of the strengths of this team. Even with Shields out for the year they shouldn't have struggled that much week end and week out.

The front 7 were hard pressed to put consistent pressure on the opposing qb. Yes injuries were a factor but still. I don't need 4 sacks a game to say the DL is doing their job. Give me pressure play after play.
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Zero2Cool
8 years ago

The season was disappointing not a failure. When you have #12 you always have a chance.

The biggest disappointment was how poorly the CBs did their job. It was suppose to be one of the strengths of this team. Even with Shields out for the year they shouldn't have struggled that much week end and week out.

The front 7 were hard pressed to put consistent pressure on the opposing qb. Yes injuries were a factor but still. I don't need 4 sacks a game to say the DL is doing their job. Give me pressure play after play.

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I'm so sick of seeing players looking away and throwing a shoulder in an attempt to tackle I could throw up. This is the NFL, I get that teams will get yards on you, but this garbage of throwing a shoulder all the time? STOP! Look at what you're hitting and wrap up! Also, the cushions the secondary gives is mind boggling at times.

I was confident Davante Adams was going to return solid after his craptastic sophomore season. I saw him still getting separation and open consistently. I have no such hope for Damarious Randall and Quinten Rollins. Maybe I'm still sore over the loss, but I think those former basketball players are wasted 1st and 2nd round picks. Which is just insane because they both played so well as rookies. Maybe it was injuries? I don't know, but the cushion Randall gives is just absurd. If that's him doing it, then coaching staff needs to sit him until he gets it. If coaching staff is okay with it, then that means they dn't have confidence in the corners coverage abilities. There's probably other scenarios I'm missing, but to me, its down to those.

Also, I think we should cut ties with Clay Matthews. He seems always dinged up and he is not a leader. I watched other teams and you could see their leader going around leading. Clay doesn't do that and for what he's being paid, he has to be a leader. (just my opinion)
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steveishere
8 years ago
I felt a lot worse after we lost to Seattle for whatever reason. Yesterday sucked and the 1st half of the year sucked pretty bad but the 2nd half of the year up until yesterday was some of the most enjoyable football I've seen. This was probably my favorite recent season behind 2010 playoff run and 2011 regular season.
Porforis
8 years ago
I wasn't really expecting the Packers to win this one, but the mistakes and missed opportunities especially early are just maddening. Glad we got this far, glad we got this far in spite of injury, but as any player or coach will tell you, it's not enough. Tick, tock. Rodgers isn't getting any younger. Tick, tock. Time to build off this season, get healthy, STAY healthy, and win it all next year. Or at least make it to the big game.

It's not a failure but it's definitely not a success. World ain't black and white.
luigis
8 years ago
We need more Kentrell Brices and less HaHas, Randalls and Rollinses. Our defensive players try to rip the ball out, they never make it and when that fails they carefully try to push the receiver out of bounds or they grab him by his shirt or shoulder pad. The result is that they give up a zillion yards after the catch and the WRs are in the 4th as fresh as they started.
Ah, and don't even think about jamming them at the start of the play, that's forbidden.

We need real NFL players not finesse clowns and a new DC coordinator. A coordinator that would quit if you give him these players.
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TheKanataThrilla
8 years ago
I will echo Porforis and say the miss opportunities have to stop. This has gone on in the playoffs many times. Against San Fran we drop a pick that would given us a huge chance at winning that game. Against Arizona I think Shield drops 3 picks himself. When this D needs to make a play it can't. That is what separates this team from the 2010 playoff team. I am not saying we even could have won with those picks, but it would have certainly helped with the momentum.

Man I wish Wade Phillips would have held off taking the Rams job. I would love him in the fold with us.

Are there any excellent young Defensive minds out there to be had? All I know is we spent 11 of the last 13 first round picks since Drafting Rodgers on Defense and it is still nowhere near good enough.
Smokey
8 years ago
😢 😢 😢



GB needs to stop crying and replace the GM and the DC !

Defense Rules !

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sschind
8 years ago

Saturday night I had to force myself to sleep early because of how excited I was. Sunday, I was so excited (and nervous) I was pacing back and forth in the shower. The game started and Falcons drove down and scored. This was expected. Falcons script their first two drives better than anyone in the NFL. Mason Crosby missed a very make-able (my opinion) field goal. Falcons drive down and get 3 points on that short field. Packers drive down and Aaron Ripkowski fumbles (BTW, this was a great play by Falcons more than it was a bad play by Ripkowski) short of the goal line. I knew then this was not going to end our way and began the "acceptance" stage of defeat while still hoping for a miracle.

The game is over, the season is over and I say this sucks. This fucking sucks!

I read a lot of football and watch a lot of football (probably too much to be fair) and I've seen a few fans calling the Packers season a failure if it were to end without a Super Bowl ring. That's absurd and unreasonable, but I get it. It's just the Packers season was not a failure. It was exciting and did not end how we wanted. That happens for 31 teams every single year. This team played way above its talent and overachieved. Teams like (to name a few) the 49ers, Rams, Jaguars, Bears , Jets had failure seasons.

The Packers lost their best cover corner, Sam Shields. They lost their best running back, Eddie Lacy. They lost their 2nd and 3rd best corners. They had their 2nd best receiver dinged up most of the season. They had a quarterback who battled hamstring and calf injuries. The best running back on the team came into the season as a receiver. The big free agent signing tight end missed a good deal of the season. They finished the season with the best cover corner being someone who wasn't even drafted.

It goes on an on and quite frankly it's sickening how unfortunate the Packers were, but hey other teams had injuries too. It's not an excuse.

The season was pretty damn awesome. We humiliated the Seahawks. We beat the Cowboys in their place during the playoffs for the first time in 50 years. We finally beat the Giants at OUR place (whew) and I got to bring my girls there for an amazing experience. And when the team was 4 - 6 most, if not all fans lost hope, lost faith and somehow, someway the Packers got even the most negative assholes to believe they they could, they might just win the Super Bowl.

Yes, we measure success by Championships in Green Bay and by that standard the season was a failure, just like 31 teams every season.

As a Packers fan, I'm proud of what they accomplished when all things are considered. We now must hope for some changes because it's obvious from 2014 and this 2016 season that status quo is just not cutting it.

What's your one big change you'd like to see for 2017? Mine would be, can we get a defensive coordinator that forces form tackling and doesn't let his players have 7-10 yard cushions?



Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



There you go again Zero. Being satisfied with the division championship. Settling for another playoff loss. Sticking your head in the sand and pretending nothing is wrong. Putting up with incompetent leadership. Content with making the playoffs, proud of substandard play, Happy with being good ... lets see, did I miss anything? Oh yeah, the most important one, being a reasonable fan who can appreciate a great effort on the season as a whole put forth by a team who played its heart out when its back was against the wall. A fan who realizes that not winning the SB means the team may have failed to win the SB but that doesn't mean the season was a failure. I'm as guilty as you are.



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Zero2Cool (14-Feb) : Packers are hiring Luke Getsy as senior offensive assistant.
Martha Careful (12-Feb) : I would love to have them both, esp. Crosby, but either might be too expensive.
Zero2Cool (12-Feb) : Keisean Nixon is trying to get Maxx Crosby and Davante Adams lol
Mucky Tundra (11-Feb) : Yeah where did it go?
packerfanoutwest (11-Feb) : or did you resctrict access to that topic?
packerfanoutwest (11-Feb) : why did you remove the Playoff topic?
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Tua’s old DC won a Super Bowl Year 1 with Tua’s former backup
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : *winning MVP
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Funny observation I've heard: Carson Wentz was on the sideline for both Eagles Super Bowl wins w/guys supposed to be his back up winning
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : NFL thought it would get more attention week preceding Super Bowl.
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Yes, the Pro Bowl. It was played Sunday before Super Bowl from 2010-2022
packerfanoutwest (10-Feb) : pro bowl
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : From 2010 to 2022, it was played on the Sunday before the Super Bowl
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : They moved it to the BYE week before Super Bowl several years ago.
packerfanoutwest (10-Feb) : it was always after the SB.....
beast (10-Feb) : Though I stop following pro bowl years ago
beast (10-Feb) : I thought the pro game was before the Super Bowl?
packerfanoutwest (10-Feb) : ok now for the Pro Bowl Game in Hawaii
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : If I was Philly I would try to end it instead of punting it
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : VICTORY! We have (moral) victory!
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : Hey they mentioned that we 3-peted
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : seems to me the 49ers should have traded Aiyuk when they had the chance
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : if the Eagles get it down to the 1, do they Tush Push or give it to Barkley?
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : 49ers have a money problem if they want to sign their QB
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Wait for real? Didn't he just get an extension two years ago?
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : 49ers gonna trade Deebo. Interesting
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : Replays always never seem to show the holdings
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : Great throw by Hurts
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Where Carter falls prey to bad off the field influences (to be clear, not saying he'd clip someone though)
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Had Carter not gone to Philly were they already had a lot of old college friends, he ends up in a similar spot to Aaron Hernandez
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : I think some of his coaches told scouts to stay away
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : the street racing incident+conditioning and motivation problems
beast (10-Feb) : Then Carter was street racing, where the other car crashed and people died... and other teams were scared to pick Carter for some reason
beast (10-Feb) : I think the Saints traded up, giving their next year 1st to the Eagles, and then they sucked and Eagles got the 10th overall pick
packerfanoutwest (10-Feb) : wtf Barkley?
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : Getting Carter and Nolan Smith in the first round in 2023 was pretty darn good
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : for some reason i'm thinking of a draft where the Eagles where in the mid 20s and a top player fell all the way to them
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : I think so. I would need to look it up. Think it may have been Carolina's pick.
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : i'm not sure who i'm thinking of now
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : oh fuck me i messed that up
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Jordan Davis was 13th overall
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Carter was 9th overall
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Eagles had 15th and 10th selections, moved to 13 and 9 to get Davis and Carter back to back
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Eagles traded up for Carter, didn't they?
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Obviously he was a huge risk but getting a top 5 talent on the dline in the mid 20s is fortuitous
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Jalen Carter falling into their lap certainly helps
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : And we could only wish to have this type of D
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : It's not like Philly has had low draft picks, but has managed to get themselves a top notch pass rush. We spend so much draft capital of D
packerfanoutwest (10-Feb) : another crap halftime show
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : I think it is over, but then I think of Atlanta and want Philly to go in with the same intensity in the second half
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