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Zero2Cool
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8 years ago

Saturday night I had to force myself to sleep early because of how excited I was. Sunday, I was so excited (and nervous) I was pacing back and forth in the shower. The game started and Falcons drove down and scored. This was expected. Falcons script their first two drives better than anyone in the NFL. Mason Crosby missed a very make-able (my opinion) field goal. Falcons drive down and get 3 points on that short field. Packers drive down and Aaron Ripkowski fumbles (BTW, this was a great play by Falcons more than it was a bad play by Ripkowski) short of the goal line. I knew then this was not going to end our way and began the "acceptance" stage of defeat while still hoping for a miracle.

The game is over, the season is over and I say this sucks. This fucking sucks!

I read a lot of football and watch a lot of football (probably too much to be fair) and I've seen a few fans calling the Packers season a failure if it were to end without a Super Bowl ring. That's absurd and unreasonable, but I get it. It's just the Packers season was not a failure. It was exciting and did not end how we wanted. That happens for 31 teams every single year. This team played way above its talent and overachieved. Teams like (to name a few) the 49ers, Rams, Jaguars, Bears , Jets had failure seasons.

The Packers lost their best cover corner, Sam Shields. They lost their best running back, Eddie Lacy. They lost their 2nd and 3rd best corners. They had their 2nd best receiver dinged up most of the season. They had a quarterback who battled hamstring and calf injuries. The best running back on the team came into the season as a receiver. The big free agent signing tight end missed a good deal of the season. They finished the season with the best cover corner being someone who wasn't even drafted.

It goes on an on and quite frankly it's sickening how unfortunate the Packers were, but hey other teams had injuries too. It's not an excuse.

The season was pretty damn awesome. We humiliated the Seahawks. We beat the Cowboys in their place during the playoffs for the first time in 50 years. We finally beat the Giants at OUR place (whew) and I got to bring my girls there for an amazing experience. And when the team was 4 - 6 most, if not all fans lost hope, lost faith and somehow, someway the Packers got even the most negative assholes to believe they they could, they might just win the Super Bowl.

Yes, we measure success by Championships in Green Bay and by that standard the season was a failure, just like 31 teams every season.

As a Packers fan, I'm proud of what they accomplished when all things are considered. We now must hope for some changes because it's obvious from 2014 and this 2016 season that status quo is just not cutting it.

What's your one big change you'd like to see for 2017? Mine would be, can we get a defensive coordinator that forces form tackling and doesn't let his players have 7-10 yard cushions?

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uffda udfa
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8 years ago

Wow. A fight for hearts and minds while using expletives to shame your membership just because they aren't Stepford like you?

When will the parade be and the hanging of the awesome season banner take place? Might fly up for it.

The objective of professional sports is to win...Win championships not celebrate failure and tune into the participation vibe where we all get a prize and feel good.

Calling this failure awesome is delusional. The same fans and media talking about the 1 point Week 8 loss and us being stronger this time are now saying we were just too injured. The irrational excuses start flying and rationalizing and justifying take center stage so the feel good element stays after embarrassment.

This team was shutout at the half. Lost by 23 and it's all being couched as it sucks but season was still awesome? Again, what's the goal?

Aaron stands and embarrasses himself by talking about Guion having to play guard as a way to say they were too injured. Guion wasn't in the game until they were well shredded.

You want to keep feeling this Fing sucks feeling every year? Just keep going on about awesome seasons that end like this. We've had a ton of awesome and more awesome in our future.

Not sure what to say about Atlanta or New England and their seasons considering ours was awesome. What's beyond that? Awesomer?

Just the typical year and fan reaction in Packerland. Failure being labeled an awesome success. Not all in again but that's okay... We'll get em next year.

Edited by user 8 years ago | Reason: Not specified

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

wpr
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8 years ago

The season was disappointing not a failure. When you have #12 you always have a chance.

The biggest disappointment was how poorly the CBs did their job. It was suppose to be one of the strengths of this team. Even with Shields out for the year they shouldn't have struggled that much week end and week out.

The front 7 were hard pressed to put consistent pressure on the opposing qb. Yes injuries were a factor but still. I don't need 4 sacks a game to say the DL is doing their job. Give me pressure play after play.

Zero2Cool
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8 years ago

Originally Posted by: wpr

I'm so sick of seeing players looking away and throwing a shoulder in an attempt to tackle I could throw up. This is the NFL, I get that teams will get yards on you, but this garbage of throwing a shoulder all the time? STOP! Look at what you're hitting and wrap up! Also, the cushions the secondary gives is mind boggling at times.

I was confident Davante Adams was going to return solid after his craptastic sophomore season. I saw him still getting separation and open consistently. I have no such hope for Damarious Randall and Quinten Rollins. Maybe I'm still sore over the loss, but I think those former basketball players are wasted 1st and 2nd round picks. Which is just insane because they both played so well as rookies. Maybe it was injuries? I don't know, but the cushion Randall gives is just absurd. If that's him doing it, then coaching staff needs to sit him until he gets it. If coaching staff is okay with it, then that means they dn't have confidence in the corners coverage abilities. There's probably other scenarios I'm missing, but to me, its down to those.

Also, I think we should cut ties with Clay Matthews. He seems always dinged up and he is not a leader. I watched other teams and you could see their leader going around leading. Clay doesn't do that and for what he's being paid, he has to be a leader. (just my opinion)

steveishere
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8 years ago

I felt a lot worse after we lost to Seattle for whatever reason. Yesterday sucked and the 1st half of the year sucked pretty bad but the 2nd half of the year up until yesterday was some of the most enjoyable football I've seen. This was probably my favorite recent season behind 2010 playoff run and 2011 regular season.

Porforis
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8 years ago

I wasn't really expecting the Packers to win this one, but the mistakes and missed opportunities especially early are just maddening. Glad we got this far, glad we got this far in spite of injury, but as any player or coach will tell you, it's not enough. Tick, tock. Rodgers isn't getting any younger. Tick, tock. Time to build off this season, get healthy, STAY healthy, and win it all next year. Or at least make it to the big game.

It's not a failure but it's definitely not a success. World ain't black and white.

luigis
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8 years ago

We need more Kentrell Brices and less HaHas, Randalls and Rollinses. Our defensive players try to rip the ball out, they never make it and when that fails they carefully try to push the receiver out of bounds or they grab him by his shirt or shoulder pad. The result is that they give up a zillion yards after the catch and the WRs are in the 4th as fresh as they started.
Ah, and don't even think about jamming them at the start of the play, that's forbidden.

We need real NFL players not finesse clowns and a new DC coordinator. A coordinator that would quit if you give him these players.

Luis

TheKanataThrilla
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8 years ago

I will echo Porforis and say the miss opportunities have to stop. This has gone on in the playoffs many times. Against San Fran we drop a pick that would given us a huge chance at winning that game. Against Arizona I think Shield drops 3 picks himself. When this D needs to make a play it can't. That is what separates this team from the 2010 playoff team. I am not saying we even could have won with those picks, but it would have certainly helped with the momentum.

Man I wish Wade Phillips would have held off taking the Rams job. I would love him in the fold with us.

Are there any excellent young Defensive minds out there to be had? All I know is we spent 11 of the last 13 first round picks since Drafting Rodgers on Defense and it is still nowhere near good enough.

Edited by user 8 years ago | Reason: Not specified

Smokey
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8 years ago

😢 😢 😢

GB needs to stop crying and replace the GM and the DC !

Defense Rules !

sschind
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8 years ago

#10

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

There you go again Zero. Being satisfied with the division championship. Settling for another playoff loss. Sticking your head in the sand and pretending nothing is wrong. Putting up with incompetent leadership. Content with making the playoffs, proud of substandard play, Happy with being good ... lets see, did I miss anything? Oh yeah, the most important one, being a reasonable fan who can appreciate a great effort on the season as a whole put forth by a team who played its heart out when its back was against the wall. A fan who realizes that not winning the SB means the team may have failed to win the SB but that doesn't mean the season was a failure. I'm as guilty as you are.

Smokey
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8 years ago

#11

Defense Rules !

mojaveson
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8 years ago

#12

Defense Rules !

Originally Posted by: Smokey

Hence the term, Defense Wins Championships! Which has been proven true more times than not. 😠

Winners never quit and quitters never win. - Vince Lombardi

uffda udfa
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8 years ago

#13

There you go again Zero. Being satisfied with the division championship. Settling for another playoff loss. Sticking your head in the sand and pretending nothing is wrong. Putting up with incompetent leadership. Content with making the playoffs, proud of substandard play, Happy with being good

... lets see, did I miss anything?

Oh yeah, the most important one, being a reasonable fan who can appreciate a great effort on the season as a whole put forth by a team who played its heart out when its back was against the wall. A fan who realizes that not winning the SB means the team may have failed to win the SB but that doesn't mean the season was a failure. I'm as guilty as you are.

Originally Posted by: sschind

That was a great post before the paragraph break. So sorry it took the turn it did.🤣

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

Cheesey
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8 years ago

#14

It was a good season, not lousy or great.
I didn't expect us to win the Atlanta game, but I thought we would be competitive.
The missed FG, the fumble by Rip.....there was 10 points lost, which would have tied the game at that point. Maybe it would have been a game then.
But when you are down as far as the Packers were, and come out in the 2nd half ice cold, you are done.
Rodgers was getting killed, while Matt Ryan had ALL DAY to find a receiver. And tackling? We had NONE. Julio Jones was like a ball in a pinball machine, bouncing off our DB's like they were not even there.
In an NFC title game, and you can't tackle? Surprised we got that far.

buckeyepackfan
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8 years ago

#15

Originally Posted by: sschind

As I read through the many post season threads, I am a little confused.

One thread says that it is completely unnacceptable for The Packers to finish the regular season 10-6 WITH ALL THE TALENT THAT IS ON THIS TEAM.

Then there are the threads that say Ted Thompson needs to be replaced because he has failed to supply Mike and Co. the talent to make The Packers a winner.

Seems some just talk out both sides of their mouths just to push their personal agendas.

Every year we make our predictions and what would be deemed a successful season.

I read these predictions and they ran anywhere from 6-10 to 16-0(that was me 😁 )

Everyone, of course wants The Packers to win The Super Bowl at the beginning of EVERY year, but most do understand that reality is it's not going to happen.

Most seasons are going to end in disapointment.

That doesn't mean the season wasn't a success.

Did The Packers meet the expectations that they and the fans were hoping for? No

They faced early adversity, some on this forum wrote them off after 10 games.

Thankfully The Packers wouldn't listen, they came together as a team and made one of the most improbable and impressive runs in recent history.

The Packers ran out of healthy players and made the early mistakes(missed FG, fumble, couple of dropped passes) that they could not afford to do against a high powered Falcon team that was playing to get to the Super Bowl for the 1st time in 18 years.

Accept it, for one game, The Packers were out manned, out coached, and out played.

The 2016 Packers finished 10-6 in the regular season.
The 2016 Packers won The North Division .
The 2016 Packers made a deep playoff run going 2-1.

ENJOY THE GAME!!!

I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!

uffda udfa
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8 years ago

#16

Buck...I don't think anyone is saying or has said we're so talented we should win the SB. What has been consistently said is we have AARON RODGERS, and when you have that talent advantage at the most critical position in the NFL winning becomes so much easier. You won't find many years guys like Young, Montana, Elway, Favre, Rodgers, Manning or Brady had a poor regular season. Having a guy like one of those elites almost ensures an annual playoff trip. We get that we're going to the playoff every year. Some of us would actually like to see a team assembled that doesn't fold when it gets toward show time.

Nobody has said Ted's stocked this team so full of talent that it's a shame we're not winning. Again, we know our fortunes rise and fall on #12. Would be nice if we had another component to rely on. The D has been such a sinkhole as to our winning. Could it at least not be that? Could it just be akin to a game manager at QB for our D? Just a unit that won't get embarrassed and destroyed year after year or fail in big moments routinely?

I'm glad to see the tide turning a little bit in some of our fanbase. 6 years is a lot of evidence to go on when the dyed in the wools used to say it's just one year, we still are this that and the other thing. That is getting harder to promote because the audience for it is slowly starting to shrink. Not quite enough for the change we need to see but at least the train has left the station.

It's too bad Atlanta didn't have to go with their 3rd string QB on Sunday. We may have stood a chance but no guarantees. The Bears 3rd stringer drilled us on the road, too, but we eeked by with our terrible defense in that one. Oops, had to face a QB who can actually throw it and had some real WR's. That has always spelled disaster for this D. ANY above average veteran QB routinely dismantles our defense save for Russell Wilson who is the one outlier.

Don't know about you, but I'd like to see a real force assembled instead of hoping and praying we get to face a 3rd string QB to get to the SuperBowl.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

Cheesey
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8 years ago

#17

Maybe 4 more years with AR, then what?
Think where we would have been the last 5 years with an "average" QB?
If the Packers really care about getting another SB trophy with Rodgers still here, they need some SERIOUS moves NOW!
Jettison Ted, and see what Eliot Wolf can do to raise this team to the next level.

RaiderPride
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8 years ago

#18

"Sunday, I was so excited (and nervous) I was pacing back and forth in the shower."

Pacing back and forth?

Jesus, how big is your shower?

""People Will Probably Never Remember What You Said, And May Never Remember What You Did. However, People Will Always Remember How You Made Them Feel."

uffda udfa
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8 years ago

#19

Big enough for him and a bag of grapefruits. 🙂

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

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