Zero2Cool
8 years ago

Dude is coming across as a greedy little bitch, imo.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



In my opinion, you're being narrow minded with this opinion and spiteful.

Eliot Wolf should absolutely interview with every franchise that is willing to interview him. He owes the Packers NOTHING. N-O-T-H-I-N-G! Personal experience, every place I interviewed with, I learned something new about my profession. If someone wants to interview you, you honor the request and you don't be a douchebag.

Brian Gutekunst should interview as well because it gets his name thrown around and who knows what could happen.
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sschind
8 years ago
Maybe we would be better off with Gutekunst? Let Wolf walk and give Gutekunst his job for a year or two. If his name was Elliot Smith no one would have cared if he had left years ago.
Nonstopdrivel
8 years ago
Gutekunst is a cool name. It means "good art" in German.

I'm really curious, though. Why does everyone seem to think Wolf is the real talent driving this organization and that Green Bay would be more successful with him at the helm? Is it just because of his venerable last name? If not, where is the evidence that good decisions are attributable to him and bad decisions are Thompson's fault?
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Zero2Cool
8 years ago

I'm really curious, though. Why does everyone seem to think Wolf is the real talent driving this organization and that Green Bay would be more successful with him at the helm? Is it just because of his venerable last name? If not, where is the evidence that good decisions are attributable to him and bad decisions are Thompson's fault?

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



This most recent draft felt kind of different. Maybe, well, I probably am over analyzing this, but I wonder if Eliot Wolf made the picks and Ted Thompson was just the face? I noticed Wolf did a lot more talking post draft than normal too.

Maybe the transition has already started and only those within closed doors know, hence the RUMOR that Ted Thompson may step down sooner than later?
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Porforis
8 years ago

This may be true, and Wolf may leave because of it; but he's not going to SF.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



As often as you and nerdmann seem to be in complete disagreement with me when it comes to Rodgers and as irritating as it's got to be for all of us, I do genuinely like that we've got room for agreement on subjects. And that you two (And the PackersHome membership in general) are generally intelligent and rational enough to have good conversations about subjects as passionate as football can be, and find common ground even when we don't agree on all the details.

I don't think he's going to SF either. I don't know much of anything about him though, some people absolutely love that sort of challenge. If he's that sort of person and really, really wants to set himself apart from his dad, making success out of a mess of a franchise would be a huge feather in his cap.

Then again, it's also a massive risk.
Rick12
8 years ago

The Packers should offer them Ted Thompson for a bag of practice balls, keep the young blood and move on.🤬

Originally Posted by: yooperfan 



I am with you 100% its time to move on from Ted Thompson He has done nothing for the Packers for the last 2 years change is needed now !!😠
nerdmann
8 years ago

In my opinion, you're being narrow minded with this opinion and spiteful.

Eliot Wolf should absolutely interview with every franchise that is willing to interview him. He owes the Packers NOTHING. N-O-T-H-I-N-G! Personal experience, every place I interviewed with, I learned something new about my profession. If someone wants to interview you, you honor the request and you don't be a douchebag.

Brian Gutekunst should interview as well because it gets his name thrown around and who knows what could happen.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Ted didn't owe Wolf anything either. But he did it, because he's a stand up guy.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
nerdmann
8 years ago

As often as you and nerdmann seem to be in complete disagreement with me when it comes to Rodgers and as irritating as it's got to be for all of us, I do genuinely like that we've got room for agreement on subjects. And that you two (And the PackersHome membership in general) are generally intelligent and rational enough to have good conversations about subjects as passionate as football can be, and find common ground even when we don't agree on all the details.

I don't think he's going to SF either. I don't know much of anything about him though, some people absolutely love that sort of challenge. If he's that sort of person and really, really wants to set himself apart from his dad, making success out of a mess of a franchise would be a huge feather in his cap.

Then again, it's also a massive risk.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



One of the reasons Holmgren came here was that the franchise was such a disaster. He wanted to show that he could take a franchise like that, and turn it all the way around.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
PackFanWithTwins
8 years ago

Dude is coming across as a greedy little bitch, imo. Not sure I want him in charge if that's the type of character he has. Ted didn't HAVE to bring him up like that. To me, it suggests that Wolf is not ready to fill those shoes.

It's a cheap power play. If they wanted an asshole running things, they could have had John Jones instead of Murphy.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



This might already be the winner for the most idiotic post of 2017.

He isn't asking to be interviewed, or for permission. Other teams are after him.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
nerdmann
8 years ago

This might already be the winner for the most idiotic post of 2017.

He isn't asking to be interviewed, or for permission. Other teams are after him.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



This isn't the first time this has come up. Dude just seems a little pushy about it to me.
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