beast
15 years ago

What are you talking about? We haven't had an All-Pro safety since Darren Sharper. Nick Collins made the Pro Bowl, but Pro Bowler and All-Pro are two different things.

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I'm not sure how you define All-Pro but Collins is better than Sharper. Yea Sharper may of got more big plays but he also risked a lot to get them and gave up a lot of big plays as well. He was like Favre of defense, yea that play a lot of plays but they also made a lot of plays for the other team as well.

Rouse is a bigger guy who played linebacker in college, and he seems to have more of a nose for the ball. Who had the 90-yard interception against Peyton Manning? Rouse.

"blueleopard" wrote:



You forgot who has horrible angles and makes mental mistakes and always goes for the big plays and gives up a lot of big plays? Rouse. I meant he was trying to give out knock out shots to Marion Barber, only for Barber to put his shoulder know take the hit, leave Rouse on the ground and Barber pick up more yards. Or the time when Woodson was one on one with Calvin Johnson, Woodson tried to jump the play got his hands on it but it pop up, and Rouse was ran himself out of the play going where he thought the ball was going only for Johnson to catch it and run right past where Rouse was (before he stupidly gambled and left his spot) when all he had to do was run straight away and tackle Johnson.

Yes Sharper and ROuse have talent and they make plays but their not safe because they gamble WAY TOO MUCH and give up big plays and TDs.

Bigby was unlucky with injuries, but I don't know why we rushed him back onto the field. When he came back, HE was the reason we lost that Titans game. When Bigby was on the field, I swear I thought I was watching Mark Roman with dreadlocks.

"blueleopard" wrote:



There are tons of reason they losted that game. It wasn't one guy.... I meant didn't Crosby miss the game winning FG? Didn't the DL get run over at the end? Hawk and Bigby were missing plays....


If someone offer a 2nd for Bigby I would probably take it.

Also yes I think Rouse risk too much but I think this new defense will help him. Just don't put him in man on man and I think he's be alright....
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dhazer
15 years ago

He better stay with the Pack!!! If he leaves, I would have to change my name :(

"Bigbyfan" wrote:




Your right Bigby he made big plays for the other teams, how many times did he get stupid late hit penalties or the usual PI called on him. He needs to learn to tackle and not go for the big hit.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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bozz_2006
15 years ago

He better stay with the Pack!!! If he leaves, I would have to change my name :(

"dhazer" wrote:




Your right Bigby he made big plays for the other teams, how many times did he get stupid late hit penalties or the usual PI called on him. He needs to learn to tackle and not go for the big hit.

"Bigbyfan" wrote:


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beast
15 years ago

He better stay with the Pack!!! If he leaves, I would have to change my name :(

"dhazer" wrote:




Your right Bigby he made big plays for the other teams, how many times did he get stupid late hit penalties or the usual PI called on him. He needs to learn to tackle and not go for the big hit.

"Bigbyfan" wrote:



Rouse is the one that really needs to learn that. Don't get me wrong Bigby does too but at least his big hits knock the ball loose sometimes and he does go for the legs wrap up more than Rouse does. Bigby has had some stupid penalties, he has also had some games where receiver couldn't hang on to the ball because he keeps knocking it away. And while Bigby lacks coverage skills he does the best with what he's got, while Rouse takes horrible angles and chances left and right. No doubt Rouse, in my mind, has more talent than Bigby, but Bigby plays a lot smarter than Rouse.
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bozz_2006
15 years ago
Rouse is not better than Bigby. Rouse is a liability in pass and run coverage who has nabbed a few interceptions. he may be better than bigby some day.
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kevinwayne20
15 years ago
I'm not surprised at all. Matter of fact i think Green Bay would JUMP at 2nd round pick for Bigby. Bigby is very unproven and was a liability for most of 07. I don't think there is a team in the NFL that would even consider trading a 2nd round pick for the kid.
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TheEngineer
15 years ago
I was looking for big things from Rouse. However at the end of this season, I feel more comfortable with Bigby being out there.
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