Zero2Cool
9 years ago

OOOh, good one. But you still haven't added a damn thing to any of these conversations.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Okay, let me contribute so you can call me names, lump me into a political party because you don't understand individuals, you understand labels and apply them with gross negligence. I would add more if I didn't have to wipe my ass and get back to work, but you get the idea.
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Cheesey
9 years ago
"Sharing", as defined by Troy.
Steal a crazy amount from "rich" people, because we CAN.
Tax breaks......they don't deserve any? You really think that is fair?
Tell you what, Troy. You obviously have more money then you need, so why don't you mail any extra you have to me every month? After all, compared to me, in my eyes, YOU are one of the "rich".
I became disabled at a young age with an illness I didn't cause or ask for.
But just keep insulting me. That's what you are best at. Being a bully.
You are showing your true self to everyone here.
Just shows even more reasons not to vote for any group you would side with.
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Rockmolder
9 years ago

"Sharing", as defined by Troy.
Steal a crazy amount from "rich" people, because we CAN.
Tax breaks......they don't deserve any? You really think that is fair?
Tell you what, Troy. You obviously have more money then you need, so why don't you mail any extra you have to me every month? After all, compared to me, in my eyes, YOU are one of the "rich".
I became disabled at a young age with an illness I didn't cause or ask for.
But just keep insulting me. That's what you are best at. Being a bully.
You are showing your true self to everyone here.
Just shows even more reasons not to vote for any group you would side with.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



I don't see why, in your eyes, every bit of progressive tax is "stealing".

When you need something heavy carried, do you ask your 5 foot, 120 lbs neighbour or your 6'4, 180 one?

The rich hardly get punished when they have to pay 2.2 million taxes over a 5 million income, when a regular Joe has to pay 10.000 in taxes over a 40.000 income. Especially when the rich have the funds to jump into loopholes left and right or "legally" relocate their income.

Also, I don't see how Dakota insulted you with that last post. I agree, he does a lot of namecalling, but not in that last post. I've seen you call for a flat tax, people having to worrk for every dollar they earn and all that. That would leave you and a whole lot of other people in a rotten situation. No one's calling for full blown socalism here, but you have to agree that a welfare state is a lot better and humane than what Trump wants to build right now.
DakotaT
9 years ago

Okay, let me contribute so you can call me names, lump me into a political party because you don't understand individuals, you understand labels and apply them with gross negligence. I would add more if I didn't have to wipe my ass and get back to work, but you get the idea.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Maybe it's best you stay out of these conversations anyway. You actually started a thread a while back stating Trump can make America great again, whatever that means. 😂


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DakotaT
9 years ago

I don't see why, in your eyes, every bit of progressive tax is "stealing".

When you need something heavy carried, do you ask your 5 foot, 120 lbs neighbour or your 6'4, 180 one?

The rich hardly get punished when they have to pay 2.2 million taxes over a 5 million income, when a regular Joe has to pay 10.000 in taxes over a 40.000 income. Especially when the rich have the funds to jump into loopholes left and right or "legally" relocate their income.

Also, I don't see how Dakota insulted you with that last post. I agree, he does a lot of namecalling, but not in that last post. I've seen you call for a flat tax, people having to worrk for every dollar they earn and all that. That would leave you and a whole lot of other people in a rotten situation. No one's calling for full blown socalism here, but you have to agree that a welfare state is a lot better and humane than what Trump wants to build right now.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder 



That's way too much information for the Mensa club to process. You need to take baby steps with them.
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PackFanWithTwins
9 years ago

I don't see why, in your eyes, every bit of progressive tax is "stealing".

When you need something heavy carried, do you ask your 5 foot, 120 lbs neighbour or your 6'4, 180 one?

The rich hardly get punished when they have to pay 2.2 million taxes over a 5 million income, when a regular Joe has to pay 10.000 in taxes over a 40.000 income. Especially when the rich have the funds to jump into loopholes left and right or "legally" relocate their income.

Also, I don't see how Dakota insulted you with that last post. I agree, he does a lot of namecalling, but not in that last post. I've seen you call for a flat tax, people having to worrk for every dollar they earn and all that. That would leave you and a whole lot of other people in a rotten situation. No one's calling for full blown socalism here, but you have to agree that a welfare state is a lot better and humane than what Trump wants to build right now.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder 



The problem with the Tax more from the rich mentality is that they seem to think the Rich person is taking their money putting it in coffee cans and burying it in the back yard so the Poor people don't get to touch it. When reality is, that money, their profit, goes right back into the system through investments which get used to fund businesses which pay incomes of the poor and middle class.

To put it on an average Joe level. I pay a kid from down the street $20 to mow my yard because I have extra money left at the end of the pay period. Government comes and decides to "steal" more taxes from me. I am still going to pay my bills and buy my food and do everything I did before, but I'm not going to have that $20 anymore so guess who is out. That is right, the kid who I will no longer be able to pay to mow the yard.

Yes the rich won't feel it if we increase the taxes, they will still have more than enough money to do everything they do today. What is actually getting taken is the money that is left over that is used to lend and fund the businesses that pay the rest of us. Raising their tax will not increase one person's salary, it will not make anything cheaper. All it does is make Government bigger.
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DakotaT
9 years ago

The problem with the Tax more from the rich mentality is that they seem to think the Rich person is taking their money putting it in coffee cans and burying it in the back yard so the Poor people don't get to touch it. When reality is, that money, their profit, goes right back into the system through investments which get used to fund businesses which pay incomes of the poor and middle class.

To put it on an average Joe level. I pay a kid from down the street $20 to mow my yard because I have extra money left at the end of the pay period. Government comes and decides to "steal" more taxes from me. I am still going to pay my bills and buy my food and do everything I did before, but I'm not going to have that $20 anymore so guess who is out. That is right, the kid who I will no longer be able to pay to mow the yard.

Yes the rich won't feel it if we increase the taxes, they will still have more than enough money to do everything they do today. What is actually getting taken is the money that is left over that is used to lend and fund the businesses that pay the rest of us. Raising their tax will not increase one person's salary, it will not make anything cheaper. All it does is make Government bigger.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



They should tax their wealth and forget income, and hit the bastards where it hurts. Rich people have so many loopholes to use with the IRS code it's an absolute joke. Unless you're going to get rid of capital gains taxes and the cap of social security taxes at $115K and treat all income as income like what is done with middle class taxpayers.

And your assumption that wealthy people put their tax savings or tax evasion back into the economy shows just how truly little you understand this subject. That money is sitting in off shore accounts.

Any person caught offshoring income is guilty of treason in this country and should be executed and all his wealth should go directly to the general fund. We have to crack down on all these thieves not make it easy for them to repatriate the income with only a slap on the wrist.
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PackFanWithTwins
9 years ago

They should tax their wealth and forget income, and hit the bastards where it hurts. Rich people have so many loopholes to use with the IRS code it's an absolute joke. Unless you're going to get rid of capital gains taxes and the cap of social security taxes at $115K and treat all income as income like what is done with middle class taxpayers.

And your assumption that wealthy people put their tax savings or tax evasion back into the economy shows just how truly little you understand this subject. That money is sitting in off shore accounts.

Any person caught offshoring income is guilty of treason in this country and should be executed and all his wealth should go directly to the general fund. We have to crack down on all these thieves not make it easy for them to repatriate the income with only a slap on the wrist.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Tax wealth, I would ask if you really can be this stupid. But you have made that answer abundantly clear. What an incredibly asinine idea. Is your plan to run all the wealth out of the country because that is exactly what you would accomplish.

Hey lets work hard and save money to buy a house only to get taxed year after year on the value of that house. Don't spend money to make improvement because hey that will just get you taxed more. Hey that savings you save up all your life for is going to disappear because it will get taxed year after year. Brilliant.




The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
DakotaT
9 years ago

Tax wealth, I would ask if you really can be this stupid. But you have made that answer abundantly clear. What an incredibly asinine idea. Is your plan to run all the wealth out of the country because that is exactly what you would accomplish.

Hey lets work hard and save money to buy a house only to get taxed year after year on the value of that house. Don't spend money to make improvement because hey that will just get you taxed more. Hey that savings you save up all your life for is going to disappear because it will get taxed year after year. Brilliant.



Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiy2-314eTNAhVHyoMKHWfMA8QQFgg-MAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bloomberg.com%2Fnews%2Farticles%2F2015-03-04%2Fu-s-companies-are-stashing-2-1-trillion-overseas-to-avoid-taxes&usg=AFQjCNEHp4BXrHq74rSR9_4h5vv04DwL6g&sig2=9MR3qrUVIe465AN2hE64MQ 

Sorry forgot to add an article for you to peruse. Yeah those people you defend are such wonderful human beings. 😂 Go piss up a rope, Twins, your opinions are garbage.
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PackFanWithTwins
9 years ago

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiy2-314eTNAhVHyoMKHWfMA8QQFgg-MAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bloomberg.com%2Fnews%2Farticles%2F2015-03-04%2Fu-s-companies-are-stashing-2-1-trillion-overseas-to-avoid-taxes&usg=AFQjCNEHp4BXrHq74rSR9_4h5vv04DwL6g&sig2=9MR3qrUVIe465AN2hE64MQ

Sorry forgot to add an article for you to peruse. Yeah those people you defend are such wonderful human beings. 😂 Go piss up a rope, Twins, your opinions are garbage.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



And you are just dense enough to think taxing them more is going to make them want to bring that money back.

Answer one simple question. Why do they take their money overseas? Because it is more beneficial for them financially. So your solution is to make it even less beneficial for them to have money here. Brilliant.

If you really want more of their money to be kept here, the answer is to make it more financially beneficial for them to do so. And you don't do that by increasing their tax.

I'm convinced you really don't care about taxes and helping the poor. You are just a bitter jealous fool
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
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